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2023 Off Season the Draft and More
#11

RE: 2023 Off Season the Draft and More
(02-15-2023, 03:21 PM)jplarson Wrote: It's always irritating to me that they don't have a standard on this.  From best to worst, here's my list of when to end a product year:

1. End of Super Bowl
2. End of league year
3. End of calendar year
4. End before the first next year product
5. End before the NFL draft
I am honestly surprised they aren't canceling 2022 products now - the 2023 Draft Class is going to be so much bigger from a collector standpoint (on the other hand, Bryce Young, C.J. Stroud, Wil Levis, and Anthony Richardson the four projected First Round Quarterbacks all have multiple cards - indeed, the only one I do not already have an autograph card of is Young - I literally paid $3 for a Leaf auto of Anthony Richardson and I mainly bought it because he plays for Florida, a team I collect).

But I guess as long as there are degenerate gamblers willing to pay into box and case breaks 

Speaking of degenerate gamblers, obviously, the NFL and online sportsbook sponsored sports talking heads never learned that the more you talk and the more you go out of your way to not look suspicious the more you look guilty.  

The NFL places too much power in the hands of unaccountable refs - they are clearly applying different rules for "stars" and regular players (see that nice push off by A.J. Brown on the long touchdown pass?  If the Eagles won, it would be fun to see how the NFL defended that) - their rules are such that refs essentially can call penalties whenever they want or not call penalties whenever they want - they have catch rules that are more complex than the Internal Revenue Code.  And their response is to defend the refs no matter what.

This is simply not going to end well.
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#12

RE: 2023 Off Season the Draft and More
Panini just released 2021-22 Mosaic Basketball … almost two thirds of the way through the 2022-23 NBA season.

I mean … why?

I was at Target tonight and had enough money for one blaster … I chose 2023 Topps Series 1 baseball instead of the Mosaic NBA, despite being a much bigger basketball collector.

Why?

Because Topps made the effort to get new cards out before the position players even report for spring training of the upcoming season.

Panini, meanwhile, has no problem putting a product out a year and a half late.
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#13

RE: 2023 Off Season the Draft and More
(02-16-2023, 11:43 PM)rjcj2017 Wrote: Panini just released 2021-22 Mosaic Basketball … almost two thirds of the way through the 2022-23 NBA season.

I mean … why?
I think we all know the answer - they know the people will buy it anyway

They released Donruss after the Super Bowl - I wouldn't be surprised if 2022 Select comes out during next season
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#14

RE: 2023 Off Season the Draft and More
Arizona - the same team that hired Kliff (Lost 66-10 to Iowa State with Patrick Mahomes at quarterback) Kingsbury after he got fired by Texas Tech hired the Eagles defensive coordinator who most every Eagles fan wanted fired

If you ever wondered why Arizona keeps being a bad team
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#15

RE: 2023 Off Season the Draft and More
(02-17-2023, 10:12 AM)ZSDOne Wrote: I think we all know the answer - they know the people will buy it anyway

They released Donruss after the Super Bowl - I wouldn't be surprised if 2022 Select comes out during next season
That is a fact.

Last night at Target there was Mosaic aplenty ... went back in this morning and it was gone.

Oh well, I'll let them rip the 36 cards for $30 and I'll buy my Cade RC online for $10 shipped.
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#16

RE: 2023 Off Season the Draft and More
(02-17-2023, 04:09 PM)rjcj2017 Wrote: That is a fact.

Last night at Target there was Mosaic aplenty ... went back in this morning and it was gone.

Oh well, I'll let them rip the 36 cards for $30 and I'll buy my Cade RC online for $10 shipped.
That really just shows how much this hobby has been taken over by the DBN.  $30 for a blaster of an unattractive overproduced product that isn't even from this year.  Really amazing.

I believe the season had already started before Select Draft Picks was released this year - and that product seemed to have been a complete bomb (it's still easily available on Target shelves)
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#17

RE: 2023 Off Season the Draft and More
(02-17-2023, 06:02 PM)ZSDOne Wrote: That really just shows how much this hobby has been taken over by the DBN.  $30 for a blaster of an unattractive overproduced product that isn't even from this year.  Really amazing.

I believe the season had already started before Select Draft Picks was released this year - and that product seemed to have been a complete bomb (it's still easily available on Target shelves)
I was in the store at about 7 p.m. last night and it was fully stocked, so someone came in between then and closing time at 10 p.m. and cleared them out.

I know that because I went back in at opening time at 8 a.m. today and they were gone.

I highly doubt there were a dozen casual basketball collectors that each grabbed a blaster and a jumbo pack in those three hours.

This was a DBN special for sure.

You're right about Select Football Draft ... it's actually a nice product with a decent amount of prizms inserted per box and what not, but Panini clearly does not care or understand the concept of "shelf life" ... meaning, it only has appeal for a very short window of time until the pro uniform stuff shows up.

Then again, Panini could only be bothered to put three retail products out this year (not counting Elite, too expensive) that featured pro uniforms, so ... whatever.

I am so indifferent to their ineptitude that I think they have finally beaten it out of me.

Like, I got the Score and Absolute RCs of Hutchinson and Williams in their pro uniforms for my Lions PC ... didn't want to gamble on Elite and couldn't find Mosaic after the first day, so ... there I am.

Two cards each.
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#18

RE: 2023 Off Season the Draft and More
Reportedly, the Cowboys are interested in C.J. Stroud. Jerry Jones is going to Jerry Jones!
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#19

RE: 2023 Off Season the Draft and More
(02-22-2023, 10:19 AM)ZSDOne Wrote: Reportedly, the Cowboys are interested in C.J. Stroud.  Jerry Jones is going to Jerry Jones!
Jerry gonna Jerry

CJ should be hoping and praying not to go there.
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#20

RE: 2023 Off Season the Draft and More
(02-22-2023, 11:16 AM)rjcj2017 Wrote: Jerry gonna Jerry

CJ should be hoping and praying not to go there.
The one case where you are praying you get drafted by the Jets!
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