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UD has been using different jerseys for years. Why else do you have random patches in 2004-2005 SP Authentic? They wore "throwback" jerseys of different players. What's the difference?

Also, UD is only reusing Fleers designs for their football products (and their own old designs).

You looked at hockey lately? Their designs pop! Great looking cards.

Football cards are bottom barrel. Basketball, Hockey, Baseball. 3 international sellers. Football? Nope. So, why dump ANY money into a top design team? That's why their other stuff rocks and their FB brand design is all "borrowed".

Its not that I even care that its an event worn jersey. I get they have to do that. It sucks, but it is what it is. What bothers me is these numbers that are used that only benefit Panini and having the name say ROOKIE rather than their name. I have never ever seen a UD product so blatantly do that. It was so easy to look at these NT rc booklets and go what the hell? Something doesnt look right. So then you start looking at closer and notice all the details and then it raises so many questions. So then you ask Panini those questions and they give you the answer I mentioned originally about how enough nike jerseys werent available so they had Osweiler wear his teamates jersey and that is why the number is 88. But then you find out that is a complete lie when NT came out because all the rcs have the number 88. So now what do you do with a card company that just straight up lies to you? What do you do with all your cards that have the COA on the back? You surely cant just believe everything it says now. Or you can if you want to just sit there and take their crap and be spoonfed. Its just very frustrating right now. I know UD is just remaking designs but those designs are what people want right now and those designs are what a lot of people in the hobby started the hobby with as a child including myself. Thats why in basketball we have the whole insert craze. So now they are addressing it in football as well and its awesome.

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In regards to the Sports Card industry there is no free market enterprise. Perhaps collectors, sage, leaf, upper deck, press pass and any other individual or entity should file a class action anti-trust lawsuit against Topps, Panini, the NFLPA, the NFL, and each and every individual player that wears the logo!

This is absolutely absurd. This is why Monopolies are bad, it will only continue to get worse. As a consumer I believe that a jersey placed on a card is that of the same player. If you are going to stick a jersey on a card that is not respective of him you need to inform the customer on the outside of the box. Where it can easily be read prior to the purchase of the product.

Sports is an event, event promoters or participants of the event should not charge a fee for publishers to print pictorial information from the event. If they don't want it printed then they should NOT host the event nor participate in the event, nor collect funds from spectators of the event. If the publishers are good they will make money from their publishing skills, if they are bad......IE Panini they won't.......

However at this point in time the NFLPA is not allowing Upperdeck, Sage, Leaf, or ??? to print actual event photo's and thus forcing other hobbyists like myself to either lose memory of the team/player/event. Or purchase an inferior and inaccurate representation of the team/player/event.

If your going to complain try Keith Gordon, President of NFL Players, Inc.

Lets get an online movement or petition going

What do we want!
1. A CHOICE! to choose a quality product from a company that is willing and able to create it. Anyone with a printer should be able to print and offer a card.

What are we getting Monopolized..... option A (crap) and option B (poop) with misleading packaging and misleading products along with guaranteed hits that are unfulfilled promises (redemptions).

What are we missing free enterprise.......option C (upper deck), option D (sage), option E (anyone else). Along with a quality product that is representative of itself. Accountability, we do not get a fulfillment dates we get an expiration date. It's a lose lose for the consumer.

I agree with the petition thing! That is partly why I started this thread lol. Also made a video and comment on all of Paninis videos. I just want them to know that they pissed a lot of people off this year with these garbage overpriced products and collectors dont deserve that. Good to see you back on here. Havent seen you post in awhile.