Did steroids in baseball start with the Big Red Machine?

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Did steroids in baseball start with the Big Red Machine?

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RE: Did steroids in baseball start with the Big Red Machine?

(01-01-2012, 08:17 PM)wmrklemm78 Wrote: Warren Spahn recorded 187 of his 363 wins after he was 35, including six straight seasons of 20 or more wins after he turned 35... red flag.

Jamie Moyer... red flag.

Phil Niekro... red flag

Tommy John... red flag

No one has ever accused anyone above from being on steroids and/or HGH, etc... They were all better AFTER turning 35... an anomaly.

He said power trend. Jamie Moyer has 0 HR in 485 career PA

And a lot of people don't realize that power is obtained as you climb the ladder. Look at Jacoby Ellsbury. In 2008 and 2009 he hit 9 and 8 homers respectively. In 2011, 32 HR. Must be roids.

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Did steroids in baseball start with the Big Red Machine? - by natejeffries - 01-01-2012, 01:01 AM

RE: Did steroids in baseball start with the Big Red Machine? - by dbroockerd - 01-01-2012, 02:55 AM

RE: Did steroids in baseball start with the Big Red Machine? - by jacobystealshome - 01-01-2012, 08:52 AM

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RE: Did steroids in baseball start with the Big Red Machine? - by dbauer2 - 01-01-2012, 12:22 PM

RE: Did steroids in baseball start with the Big Red Machine? - by wmrklemm78 - 01-01-2012, 08:17 PM

RE: Did steroids in baseball start with the Big Red Machine? - by dbauer2 - 01-01-2012, 09:18 PM

RE: Did steroids in baseball start with the Big Red Machine? - by wmrklemm78 - 01-01-2012, 10:04 PM

RE: Did steroids in baseball start with the Big Red Machine? - by bustin 5 knots - 01-02-2012, 12:13 AM

RE: Did steroids in baseball start with the Big Red Machine? - by wmrklemm78 - 01-02-2012, 12:47 AM

RE: Did steroids in baseball start with the Big Red Machine? - by natejeffries - 01-01-2012, 02:44 PM

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