[ricky williams 34]

I've thought about that. Do they still let you know the grade if it doesn't meet the minimum?

No, they don't let you know what it would have graded...it just comes back as "didn't meet minimum grade."



And to be honest, I would never buy a card that was graded anything less than a 9.5 unless the lower grade was the only option or the card was rare. So, I'm not a fan of 8.5 at all, but I understand some people are okay with it. (I'll consider 9's with the ultra thick products like Exquisite or Five Star...they are so hard to grade)

I am anything but okay with my 10 8.5's from the submission. Still not sure how I'm going to handle it though...so I'm feeling your pain G...