(02-13-2012 05:43 PM)nolan5000 Wrote: It was graded by SGC, but I don't remember the grade. A red thread fell off of the card.
(02-13-2012 05:20 PM)dmogull Wrote: We have all heard about the 86-87 Fleer MJ RC PSA 10 crossing over to a BGS 10 (I believe this is how the first MJ RC BGS 10 was established), so anything is possible I would think the graders try to be as objective as possible and the only criteria involved in the crossover grade is the condition of the card itself.
(02-13-2012 06:22 PM)ricelynnevans75 Wrote: A red "thread"?
With that said and from what I've seen on the boards though, I don't know how up to date the population report is.
(02-13-2012 06:45 PM)nolan5000 Wrote: Yes, a red thread!!
The Beckett Pop. Report hasn't Updated since Dec. 13th, 2011. So, it was 2 months ago today.
(02-13-2012 06:48 PM)ricelynnevans75 Wrote: So a card graded Gem Mint (or whatever grade) crossed over to Pristine after a "red thread" fell off of it?
(02-13-2012 09:17 PM)ricelynnevans75 Wrote: Well, when did it happen?
(02-14-2012 06:58 AM)nolan5000 Wrote: I don't remember, but it must have been discussed on these boards at some point.
(02-14-2012 11:13 AM)ricelynnevans75 Wrote: Probably was but if it was in the basketball forums, before this grading board opened up, I wouldn't have seen it. I remember an article about the first BGS 10 Jordan RC back in the day (noted above) and various sales here and there but the majority of the ins and outs I only follow baseball.
I did find one thread on another forum (CU I think?) from about two years ago last night discussing one that was sent from BGS to SGC but I couldn't find anything about one going from SGC to BGS.
There are A LOT of BGS 9.5 Jordan RCs 200+ but I've always been curious to know how many Gem Mints are duplicates from people breaking a slab and resubmitting.
(02-12-2012 11:06 AM)rusty222 Wrote: If I have BGS 9 with .10? Or is the chance of that happening slim to none?
Has anyone ever sent a BGS 9 to PSA and received a PSA 10 before?
(02-21-2012 02:15 PM)Grigsby3 Wrote: I have pondered this question a great deal but so far have not put my money where my mouth is. One thing is certain and that is the stated grading standards are tougher for BGS than PSA. A PSA 9 needs 65/35 centering on the front and 90/10 centering on the reverse. A BGS 9 needs 55/45 on the front and 70/30 on the reverse. One could intuit that a BGS 9 (and certainly a BGS 9.5) should have a good chance of crossing over to a PSA 10 and in theory be worth more money since it appears that SGC and BGS trade at a discount to PSA.
So why doesn't everybody do this? My suspicion is that most people believe PSA will never put a 10 on a competitor's card thereby confirming that the competitor has tougher standards. There are also enough "stories" out there that the cards come back from PSA with a lower grade because PSA determined it was altered, trimmed, or worse, they damaged it when they removed the card from the other slab.