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1968 - 1969 Houston Astros question
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1968 - 1969 Houston Astros question
Anyone know why Topps blacked out logos on their 1968 and 1969 Houston Astros cards and instead of putting "Astros" on the front of the card put "Houston" instead? The 1967 cards say Astros and show the players in their Astros uniforms so it can't be because of the change from the Colt 45s in 1965.
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RE: 1968 - 1969 Houston Astros question
(03-25-2018, 11:02 AM)zeprock Wrote: Anyone know why Topps blacked out logos on their 1968 and 1969 Houston Astros cards and instead of putting "Astros" on the front of the card put "Houston" instead? The 1967 cards say Astros and show the players in their Astros uniforms so it can't be because of the change from the Colt 45s in 1965.
Great question! And the first games were played in the astrodome in 1965 and they were already renamed the Astros? Very strange.
Hopefully, someone has an answer or a reasonable hypothesis.
My partial guess is that perhaps they were reusing old pic of players since Topps was in NYC they usually waited until teams were visiting The Yankees (or Mets) to take photos (background Yankees facade in soooooo many baseball cards photos) ... other than that, I'm out. Smile
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RE: 1968 - 1969 Houston Astros question
(03-25-2018, 11:41 AM)DrMitchJ Wrote: Great question! And the first games were played in the astrodome in 1965 and they were already renamed the Astros? Very strange.
Hopefully, someone has an answer or a reasonable hypothesis.
My partial guess is that perhaps they were reusing old pic of players since Topps was in NYC they usually waited until teams were visiting The Yankees (or Mets) to take photos (background Yankees facade in soooooo many baseball cards photos) ... other than that, I'm out. Smile
But that wouldn't explain why the cards say "Houston" instead of "Astros" on them. All the other cards have the team name. even the 1967 cards say Astros.
Found this explanation online:

In 1968 Topps stopped using the name "Astros", instead using the team name of "Houston", and did not show the Astros hats or uniforms. The cards used headshots with blacked out or missing hats. In 1969 they followed the same pattern until the fifth series, when the uniforms were suddenly shown again. In 1970, things were finally corrected, and the name "Astros" was back.

The unconfirmed story is that the Astros and Monsanto (the maker of AstroTurf) had a dispute over the use of the name, and Topps either chose or was compelled to stay out of it. The Astros had very attractive uniforms in those days, but they were largely unseen by the kids of 1968 and 1969.

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RE: 1968 - 1969 Houston Astros question
(03-25-2018, 11:55 AM)zeprock Wrote: But that wouldn't explain why the cards say "Houston" instead of "Astros" on them. All the other cards have the team name. even the 1967 cards say Astros.
Found this explanation online:

In 1968 Topps stopped using the name "Astros", instead using the team name of "Houston", and did not show the Astros hats or uniforms. The cards used headshots with blacked out or missing hats. In 1969 they followed the same pattern until the fifth series, when the uniforms were suddenly shown again. In 1970, things were finally corrected, and the name "Astros" was back.

The unconfirmed story is that the Astros and Monsanto (the maker of AstroTurf) had a dispute over the use of the name, and Topps either chose or was compelled to stay out of it. The Astros had very attractive uniforms in those days, but they were largely unseen by the kids of 1968 and 1969.

https://www.thenationalpastimemuseum.com...6-conflict
That's a very good explanation! A small company like Topps didn't want to get into a copyright lawsuit against the giant Monsanto corporation. Perfectly logical and understandable.
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RE: 1968 - 1969 Houston Astros question
Here's another theory:

http://toppsarchives.blogspot.com/2008/0...orgot.html
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