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1984-85 Star Jordan XRC Advice
#21

RE: 1984-85 Star Jordan XRC Advice
This is the 86-87.


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#22

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Looking good!
I wonder if it's possiblle to get all MJs Star Co cards with a bGs9
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#23

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(02-27-2015, 11:07 PM)dale12 Wrote: Looking good!
I wonder if it's possiblle to get all MJs Star Co cards with a bGs9
Thanks.

There are a lot of 9's out there, but it's tougher to find a 9 for the 84-85 Star (in my limited experience).
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#24

RE: 1984-85 Star Jordan XRC Advice
(02-27-2015, 11:07 PM)dale12 Wrote: Looking good!
I wonder if it's possiblle to get all MJs Star Co cards with a bGs9
It is a massive challenge. While some of the Star MJ cards can be easily had in a 9, a few are near impossible (1984 MJ Star #195 Olympic and #288 ROY come to mind - both cards have pops with less than five known in a "9") .

And as ifyoucanthinkofit has pointed out, 1984 MJ Star XRC #101 is very rare in a 9.

The barrier to the prestigious "9" plateau has always been the "centering" issue in the 1984 MJ Star XRC #101. That one factor alone has relegated so many sharp examples to a 7.5 / 8.0 / 8.5 ceiling (including the few that remain in factory bags despite their untouched states). As the card moves up in price across the boards, a true "9" 101 is one of the real hobby holy grails, not just among modern hoops cards but all of basketball card collecting.

The 1986 Fleer Jordan is widely considered the most popular card in the hobby and sales of gem mint examples seem to make headlines every time one is sold. But that in part has to do with the "availability" of those minty 86 Fleer cards to be traded. Pound-for-pound, the 1984 Star XRC, which was issued two years earlier in Jordan's true rookie season, sells for multiples of the Fleer in every grade along the spectrum, from raw to mint.

And when it comes to the supply of "9"s, they do not even compare. The pure rarity of the Star card blows away the Fleer in the exquisite "Mint" grades. And the pop report numbers prove it:

1986 Fleer MJ PSA 9 + BGS 9 = pop 3,333
1986 Fleer MJ PSA 10 + BGS 9.5 = pop 573

1984 Star MJ BGS 9 = pop 24

To put it another way ..... for every 162 MINT grade Fleer MJ rookie cards, there is 1 Star MJ XRC #101.

162 to 1


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(03-01-2015, 02:59 AM)KobeJames Wrote: It is a massive challenge. While some of the Star MJ cards can be easily had in a 9, a few are near impossible (1984 MJ Star #195 Olympic and #288 ROY come to mind - both cards have pops with less than five known in a "9") .

And as ifyoucanthinkofit has pointed out, 1984 MJ Star XRC #101 is very rare in a 9.

The barrier to the prestigious "9" plateau has always been the "centering" issue in the 1984 MJ Star XRC #101. That one factor alone has relegated so many sharp examples to a 7.5 / 8.0 / 8.5 ceiling (including the few that remain in factory bags despite their untouched states). As the card moves up in price across the boards, a true "9" 101 is one of the real hobby holy grails, not just among modern hoops cards but all of basketball card collecting.

The 1986 Fleer Jordan is widely considered the most popular card in the hobby and sales of gem mint examples seem to make headlines every time one is sold. But that in part has to do with the "availability" of those minty 86 Fleer cards to be traded. Pound-for-pound, the 1984 Star XRC, which was issued two years earlier in Jordan's true rookie season, sells for multiples of the Fleer in every grade along the spectrum, from raw to mint.

And when it comes to the supply of "9"s, they do not even compare. The pure rarity of the Star card blows away the Fleer in the exquisite "Mint" grades. And the pop report numbers prove it:

1986 Fleer MJ PSA 9 + BGS 9 = pop 3,333
1986 Fleer MJ PSA 10 + BGS 9.5 = pop 573

1984 Star MJ BGS 9 = pop 24

To put it another way ..... for every 162 MINT grade Fleer MJ rookie cards, there is 1 Star MJ XRC #101.

162 to 1
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#26

RE: 1984-85 Star Jordan XRC Advice
7.5 on centering? Really? How'd it grade so high? Just to hit the overall 8, maybe.
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#27

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(03-01-2015, 02:55 PM)jonathani Wrote: 7.5 on centering? Really? How'd it grade so high? Just to hit the overall 8, maybe.
They're weird on centering. Once the bottom starts to have more of a border, than the top starts to be way off. The 85-86 cards seem to be much better. The centering is good on all of the ones I have picked up.

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#28

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Nice Jordan's! I've been slowly picking up as many jordan Star cards as i can. Picked up the 101 over a year ago now...looks like the price has come up a bit. It's the centerpiece of my jordan collection so I'm happy to see more people appreciate the older Jordan's.
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#29

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(03-02-2015, 01:49 AM)arabiansnowgriz Wrote: Nice Jordan's! I've been slowly picking up as many jordan Star cards as i can. Picked up the 101 over a year ago now...looks like the price has come up a bit. It's the centerpiece of my jordan collection so I'm happy to see more people appreciate the older Jordan's.
Thanks. I've been collecting Jordan cards since 1989, but I probably stopped around 1995 or 1996, as school, etc. got busy and more expensive!

Collecting the Star cars is fun. I'd like to pick up another 101, but I think I'll focus on some of the other ones first.

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#30

RE: 1984-85 Star Jordan XRC Advice
I don't know about ya that card cant be an 8 maybe an 8.5 or a 9
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