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Conditional Pricing In Trade Tool.
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Conditional Pricing In Trade Tool.
Good day, Beckett Community.

I am usually only in the Hockey Boards, but thought that I would share this with everyone!

I have been making some great trades, and have had many offers over the past while, and have noticed something that throws me off. There are residual "Mint (9)" statuses placed on cards that are in our Org. that were "graded" as such when Beckett was questioning the conditional value of cards a couple of weeks ago.

The thing that really throws me is that this rating drives the BV of the card up to 125% (instead of the stated 110%... easier to calculate???), and this is on ALL cards that are marked like this. So in essence, a card that has a high BV of $20 looks to have a value of $25 when in the Trade Tool.

The really wonderful thing (sarcasm) that is happening now is that the cards that we are adding to our Org. after the conditional value controversy are going into our Org. as Nmt. (8), which reflects the true high BV. So now mostly everyone has an array of cards marked at Mint (9), and Nmt. (8) in their Org., throwing things off for our trades. Annoying... to say the least, and it has turned trading into a guessing game!

I have found a way to remedy this, and it is pretty easy... go into your Org. (make sure you are in "All Items") and and hit the arrow on the little box that says "select". When you do this a drop-down menu will come up. Select "Collection", and this will highlight your entire Org. Above "Condition" you will see a blue "Fill" selection. Hit that and then revert your status to "Nmt. (8)" and it will do such for all of the cards in your Org. This will situate your collection back to the default that Beckett now has your cards falling under.

Now... if you do not have the "Condition" column placed in your Org. you can add it by scrolling to the bottom of the screen while in your Org. There you will see "Choose Columns". Hit this and two menu boxes will come up. In these menu boxes you can choose what you would like your Org. to look like (i.e. you can add/remove the picture option; conditional value; Beckett High; Beckett Low; etc.) by hitting the (+) in the right menu box to put a feature into your Org., or the (-) in the left menu box to remove a feature from your Org. Please keep in mind that the space in your Org. is limited, and if you choose too many features it will crowd your Org., or they just will not show up.

I know that other people have become frustrated with this conditional pricing error as-of-late, but this will serve to resolve that. Thanks for the read, folks! Have a great day, and happy collecting!

Randi
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#2

RE: Conditional Pricing In Trade Tool.
Nice...what I usually do to make it even...is that I will back into my ORG and select those cards only included in the trade to reflect the same condition as the other trader...I have no problem when both trader are set as defatult but when they still have theirs set as Mint...then I switch my cards involved in the trade as mint as well...they really get surprised when they see how off-sided the trade would be....LOL!!! If the trade does not go through then I go back to my ORG and switch the cards to the "Default" setting.
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RE: Conditional Pricing In Trade Tool.
(01-15-2012, 09:54 AM)arod0770710 Wrote: Nice...what I usually do to make it even...is that I will back into my ORG and select those cards only included in the trade to reflect the same condition as the other trader...I have no problem when both trader are set as defatult but when they still have theirs set as Mint...then I switch my cards involved in the trade as mint as well...they really get surprised when they see how off-sided the trade would be....LOL!!! If the trade does not go through then I go back to my ORG and switch the cards to the "Default" setting.
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RE: Conditional Pricing In Trade Tool.
No thanks, I will leave my cards graded the condition they actually are so as not to make it a guessing game over what condition they are in and if anyone is not smart enough to look up Beckett high vs. conditional pricing then they might not want to be trading online
My Bucket - w/ PC & Up For Sale Scans (NOT BACK UP TO DATE YET)
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RE: Conditional Pricing In Trade Tool.
(01-15-2012, 11:21 AM)the cardboard fan Wrote: No thanks, I will leave my cards graded the condition they actually are so as not to make it a guessing game over what condition they are in and if anyone is not smart enough to look up Beckett high vs. conditional pricing then they might not want to be trading online
I grade all of my vintage cards as best I can and do not ever change those grades. If I am searching for cards I need such as 2011 original backs, and find someone who has all their stuff marked as Mint/9 I don't even bother to open a trade with them, I just look elsewhere...I only switch my grades to "9" when someone sends me an open offer and I find all their stuff is over-graded to their advantage. I only do this on modern era cards...I also pay attention to change them back if the trade falls through...

but, maybe as you said...I am not smart enough to be here...Smile



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RE: Conditional Pricing In Trade Tool.
(01-15-2012, 11:47 AM)ande_23 Wrote: I grade all of my vintage cards as best I can and do not ever change those grades. If I am searching for cards I need such as 2011 original backs, and find someone who has all their stuff marked as Mint/9 I don't even bother to open a trade with them, I just look elsewhere...I only switch my grades to "9" when someone sends me an open offer and I find all their stuff is over-graded to their advantage. I only do this on modern era cards...I also pay attention to change them back if the trade falls through...

but, maybe as you said...I am not smart enough to be here...Smile
We should not be having to switch grades or look up values ultimately Beckett needs to fix their change... we should not have to grade our cards different from what they are to accommodate them... that opens a new can of worms

Don't take offense to my statement it was geared at the people that PM and trade message me fussing and showing their @**es because I haven't regraded my cards to their liking
My Bucket - w/ PC & Up For Sale Scans (NOT BACK UP TO DATE YET)
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RE: Conditional Pricing In Trade Tool.
(01-15-2012, 11:51 AM)the cardboard fan Wrote: Don't take offense to my statement it was geared at the people that PM and trade message me fussing and showing their @**es because I haven't regraded my cards to their liking
No offense taken, but I would be offended if I was considered an @** for inquiring as to the true condition of vintage cards that are all graded with the default of nrmt...Leaving all of ones cards set at the default grading (especially vintage cards) leaves me to wonder if they are lazy and just don't care much about what they are doing, or they are intentionally trying to get over...neither option is someone I would be eager to trade with.

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RE: Conditional Pricing In Trade Tool.
(01-15-2012, 12:16 PM)ande_23 Wrote: No offense taken, but I would be offended if I was considered an @** for inquiring as to the true condition of vintage cards that are all graded with the default of nrmt...Leaving all of ones cards set at the default grading (especially vintage cards) leaves me to wonder if they are lazy and just don't care much about what they are doing, or they are intentionally trying to get over...neither option is someone I would be eager to trade with.
I agree exactly which is why I take the time to list all my cards at the condition they are actually in but that IS NOT what I was referring to... I have had a member or two PM me way out of context and rude over this Beckett conditional value change and it was my 1st communication with them

My Bucket - w/ PC & Up For Sale Scans (NOT BACK UP TO DATE YET)
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RE: Conditional Pricing In Trade Tool.
I usually nicely ask in a comment in our trade if the person im trading with can move the cards in our trade down to nmt, unless they are graded mint of course. Only happened once or twice, but both times the trader did it and it worked out fine.
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(01-15-2012, 12:31 PM)Krangry Wrote: I usually nicely ask in a comment in our trade if the person im trading with can move the cards in our trade down to nmt, unless they are graded mint of course. Only happened once or twice, but both times the trader did it and it worked out fine.
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Also on my vintage cards, I left them at the value Beckett puts the. In when I list them into org. Because I have zero gradeing knowledge, however I have scans of all my vintage in my bucket and ask the trader to help me with what they think about condition on them. Hope I haven't lost trades over this. Honestly communication is key about all of this. Until Beckett fixes the mess they have made now, we all need to be open minded and honest. But those are the only kind of traders I wish to deal with anyways.
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