[ricelynnevans75]

Heres my main point once again, the majority of COLLECTORS grade with BGS, while the majority of GRADERS (people who are in it for the sole purpose of making money) grade with PSA. Im not talking about buying or selling or anything else. Its plain and simple. I need no evidence or study to prove this. The proof is in the pudding.

That's great, but you still didn't answer the question. Where is your proof and/or evidence? What is the sample size that you used? What are people called who send cards into BGS? Are they also not getting cards graded? Is this not the same thing as sending your cards to another grading company? Why do people submit brand new cards to BGS and then sell on ebay ASAP? Is it because they are collectors or because they are trying to make a quick buck? If the proof is in the pudding, then surely you have the "pudding" available to show the proof no? If you are stating this as your opinion, that's great, we all have one. However, since you seem to be posting this as fact, I'll ask for the evidence/proof. Of which, you have yet to provide any beyond you essentially saying "because I said so".

There is nothing to argue, its just the way things are. There will always be a company willing to give better grades for a cheaper price. There is a REASON BGS has made a name for themselves in the grading world. That reason is trust. If you or anyone else really feal the need to defend PSA or the long line of other grading companies that try to emulate what BGS does for less money and a cheaper product you need to take a hard long look at the reasons why. What would your reasons be for grading with PSA or some other company, Rice75?

Just as, there is a reason why other grading companies have made a name for themselves. To believe that "trust" is the reason that some choose BGS/BVG and others go with other companies for other reasons, without any solid evidence and/or proof, is great, just don't state it as fact but go with what it actually is, your opinion. If you actually read and paid attention to my posts, you would see I'm not defending any grading company. I use a different grading company because out of all the grading companies, I trust their ability, like the way the card presents in the holder, and like the slab overall. BUT, that's why I use that company, because it's what fits me. It doesn't make it right or wrong, doesn't make be better than others who don't use them, and doesn't make more more or less of a collector. It's just my own personal preference for my part in the hobby.

As far as the questions you asked me, I dont think youre properly understanding what it is that I am saying. First off I would NEVER suggest taking a PSA graded card and sending that into Beckett to see what you get back. I can however understand how someone would desire their PSA 10 to be a BGS 10. Look at the comparison of prices between ANY BGS 10 graded card and ANY same card graded "10" by PSA. You will see the cold, hard facts I am talking about. The whole issue that I have which Ive stated before and will state again is that PSA 10's are NOT equal to a BGS 10. Furthermore, it is decietful and IMO false advertising to slap a 10 grade on something and then just lower your standards from others. Some one who does not know this FACT could be easily duped into buying an inferior card and have a false belief that their PSA 10 is the same as a BGS 10. I will go so far as to say that there should be a single standard definition for all grading companies to give a 10 grading to a card. I also feel that BGS's definition is as good as it gets and should be the standard. I know this will never happen. But, those of us who know BGS's definition IS the golden standard for highest quality will continue to posses the finest graded examples available and will pay the premium prices that these examples deserve.

Again, why are you comparing a BGS 10 and a PSA 10? They are two totally different grades. For the simple reason that you apparently can't get beyond the number 10, I'll just assume that you don't even understand the grading scales of any other company beyond BGS. PSA was along well before BGS. So why did BGS go with a higher grade? Oh yeah, to make themselves stand out, possibly make more money, and this is all because each grading company is a BUSINESS and are out to make a profit. However, they weren't even the first grading company to use "Pristine" as a grade. Quite frankly, I'm not even sure who was but I do know that SGC came out before BGS and SGC used a 1-100 scale. So, would that make an SGC 100 a more desirable card than a BGS 10 because it's a higher number? You seem to flip back and forth between your posts as if you don't even believe what you yourself are saying. Additionally, a definition is great and all, but if it's not applied as stated, the definition is useless.

As well, you are either trying to side step or you are simply not understanding what I am saying about BGS 10's compared to PSA 10's. OF COURSE the definition of a 10 is what matters, and yes they are different for BGS and PSA. PSA 10's BY DEFINITION are inferior when compared to a BGS 10 DEFINITION. So, what is the point you are trying to make? I know what my point is and yes, it is a FACT. PSA grading standards are inferior to BGS standards. Therfor, any example of a PSA graded card will be an inferior card compared to the same graded score assesed by BGS.

Holy cow, a PSA 10 is "Gem Mint" and a BGS 10 is "Pristine". A BGS 9.5 is "Gem Mint". Why in the world are you trying to compare a PSA 10 and a BGS 10?

Again, you are misunderstanding...he is saying YOU are the 1. We are the 93. Get it?

Congratulations, you've just proven to all that you have no concept of reading comprehension. His post of "I don't even know what rle75 said because rle75 is 1 of 93" means I'm part of the group of 93. If you don't understand that simple statement, then I now understand why you can't get past a number combined with a definition and how they are actually applied.