[kstjst]

very good point. my lcs, however, said that they got allocated more drastically than even this past year's football national treasures...so you may be looking at paying more than $600/pack...something closer to $650 to $700.

That can definitely be misleading, as this also means twice as many scrubs as usual. Let's say a typical rookie class is 60 players, and 5 of them are worth getting. So a double rookie class has 120 players, and 10 of them are worth getting. While the odds are technically still 1/12 that you hit a top rookie, there are twice as many scrub players to worry about hitting as well. I like the double rookie class in low and mid-range products, but it would be nice if the high end products stuck with just the TOP rookies.

[johanolsson]

Now, I dont buy wax. Not that I dont want to, but I always have to include atleast $40 shipping, and potential shipping, so I just stick to singles. But, NT would have been the last box id buy, for the reason of ~$600/box, and the cards have sticker autos. It's still a piece of cardboard with paint on it. Yes, you might get a logoman, but come on. For 600 smackaroos you should get on card autos....and a mini yoyo or something.

[bballfrk44]

I love the giant patches and different dual/triple autos they have but I think I'm going to stay away from this. $600 is too much and yesterday I browsed ebay at things that have already sold and I'm not impressed with prices. The look of the cards are really cool. I'm torn. If I can get one for $500 I may do it but right now I'm staying away