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(10-11-2012 05:49 PM)nineof Wrote: I'm not trying to make light of your situation. I think Panini is definitely in the wrong here and you should be compensated and then some for the card they owe you.
But to me, this kind of print run error doesn't seem like that big a deal. There is always the possibility that there are less cards out there in the world than the print run states. Cards get lost, destroyed, burned, whatever. Now if the print run was actually higher than stated, that would annoy me to no end.
Of course, since it's tied in to you getting a card you are owed, it totally sucks. Hope that made some sense.
(10-11-2012 05:49 PM)solid133 Wrote: That stinks I'm sorry about that man. These card companies really just don't give a damn, I've heard this same thing about other cards /10, /15, /25, etc that they don't end up making all of them or getting all of them signed but never announce it or "forget" to mention it...sigh bring back DONRUSS!!! lol
(10-11-2012 06:07 PM)soccerscrub Wrote: I don't mind there being less of a card then stated... Whether I know about it or not is not relevant to me because as the previous poster pointed out, it's possible the card never makes it out of the box...
(10-11-2012 07:50 PM)branesergen Wrote: Print run means just that - Print run - There were 25 cards printed - Doesnt mean there were 25 issued. Many low print run cards are held back for replacements. Some are simply reprinted and shipped out as was the case with a damaged Daniel Thomas card I sent in. Sent me back the same card with the same number on it - 2/10. I wouldnt give up on your card yet. You talked to a CS rep - if you ever worked CS you would know they dont know a whole lot. Only enough to get by and I wouldnt put it past Panini to reissue the missing cards to try to get them signed. I got a DT 1/1 redemption sent to me so I have faith in a /25. Also something to consider - My 2nd Kendall Hunter Material Phenoms card is being sent to me - 3 months after I received the 1st. So they dont always come in at the same time.
(10-11-2012 08:07 PM)chibearsboy Wrote: here's my take on the "print runs" and the TRUE numbers......
if a card has "10" Print run on the list...it really is only 5..because
1...a card a collectors girlfriend torched his whole collection with the 4/10 A.P. super patch auto included...
2...a collector with a 4 year old boy wasnt watching him close enough and the 6/10 was split in half by this busy young boy
3....the 2/10 was in a top loader and with 2 pcs of cardboard protecting it but the Postal Service still managed to Fold in in half during an ebay sale/ship...
down to 7 now.....
4 were pulled and are the proud Center-pieces of Rabid Adrian Peterson collectors...
3...are still in the boxes and will probably will NEVER be seen,,,ever..
there is your 10..
as for redemptions...
more and more are going out to high end case buyers and some of the type you pulled are going with them as Gifts sad to say..or are so badly made they are never put out there....so the number is truly never known bro..remember the Bradford frosh fabric 1/1?..givin away to a big timer instead of being inserted in a pack....bullskit IMO,,
like it was NEVER printed........
(10-11-2012 08:25 PM)nthnoak Wrote: Ive seen that a few times in the case of damaged cards. Being replaced by the same serial number but thats because they obviously made more than the number and were using the others as replacements. They would then destroy the damaged one. Your right on the CS thing. They go look for a minute and come back and say I cant find your card. Like seriously? You guys have thousands of cards in and mine could be anywhere considering one of them already told me it could have been misfiled. Im now suppose to possibly receive a call from the manager so maybe he can clear this up. I didnt know about the different waves of signings so I will ask about that. Especially since they use those guys in other products I dont see why there would be a problem getting me this card. Thanks for the input.
Yeah I hear you on the first part. And actually I dont have a problem with it. It sucks, but thats once they are in the hand of collectors. So the company in that case put them all out there, and some were destroyed by the public. In my case, Im being told some were destroyed by the company and as I result Im not getting mine. Which is complete crap because I have this redemption card here telling me Im due to receive one well before it expires. I cant believe they would give away a 1/1 like that. Especially if it was probably the hit of the product and what got people to buy the stuff anyway. I didnt know they did that. Do you have a link or anything about that? Id like to read that and see it.
(10-11-2012 08:46 PM)chibearsboy Wrote: and i really wish someone had the balls and the cash to get a class action lawsuit going against these card company's and the "replacement redemptions"issue...it is TOTAL BS to be honest....if i did sheet like this i would be run out of town here as a business man...not kidding