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(08-30-2012 08:26 AM)goldcoin2012 Wrote: but i have seen BGS 9.5 with the same flaws. I even saw a PSA 10 Kobe refractor on ebay that has a refractor line in it. were these cards just over graded and just got lucky grades? If a avrage joe like me sends my jordan refractor in to BGS what are my chances at a 9?