[hegotgame1515]

hero ball is absolute horse manure. anyone who buys into it - fans or players - are dumb as a box of rocks. great players know that if there is 4 seconds on the clock, and they are doubled - you make the right basketball play. you look for the open man. last second heroics isnt just 1 guy trying to make a basket

<b>"Barkley, Ewing, Malone and Dr j were great players, however I don't see anyone calling them the greatest"</b>

that is not what you asked. you said: "Does winning Championships have a bearing on what makes the greats, great?"

i simply answered your question. dont go moving the goalposts after the fact

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and lbron has hit a ton of clutch shots in his career

You are a very rational person, I have seen you comment on many topics and most of the time, no one can argue with your logic.
But I don't understand you point of view when it comes to Lebron.

Were do you place Lebron on the all time greats as of TODAY?


"HERO BALL"
Someone has to score if you are down...Do they not?

If your team is down, with whatever seconds left and you have the ball, YOU are required to score or allow someone to score off being double teamed...

Lebron had the ball a number of times with 3 mins left and EVERYTIME he failed...
He made bad plays and caused turnovers.

In more then one game!

He hit some great shots earlier to keep Miami in the game, but when it was time to hit or make plays to win, he didn't.

He gets lucky with position and scores and now all of a sudden what he did earlier is ok?

If you would like to go back and watch the close games Vs Pacers you will see my point.


I can't fault a player for taking a shot and missing, I can how ever fault a player that crumbles under the pressure and fails to get a good shot off, or at least get it to some else who wants to take a shot.
A number of times he had the ball, his team was looking for him to make it happen, but every time he passed and looked like he didn't want to take a MUST HIT shot!




Lebron has a chance to get 2 in a row and it seems like everyone is already making excuses for his failure.

I would like him to do it and prove he has what it takes to be among the elite, this playoffs he hasn't but he still has time to prove himself.