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Fake Beckett Holograms?
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Fake Beckett Holograms?
Guys I hope you can help me because there is something very concerning thing going on. I thought Beckett holograms are impossible to forge because of their hologram and barcode combination but I found some Chinese sellers selling cheap autographs with new Beckett logos and the barcode matches and takes you to Beckett website. There is a lot if discussion going on that how they pull this one off on some boards.

The mistake they made is they included a COA with the new Beckett authentication logo and Beckett new logos doesn't come with COAs. I didn't buy any signatures from China but some US sellers are buying from them and then listing them on a mark up price. This is an example of a fake. This seller is listing every celebrity and bids never cross 50 USD and look at the names he is having.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ssn=dxi...561.l49496

Do you know about these fake Beckett logo practices? I am actually shocked to find out because I never buy PSA or JSA because those logos can be easily faked. But now they found a way to forge Beckett too. If you know anything in this regard please do share.

Please advise if its possible to spot fake from the real hologram and if you or Beckett knows about these fake holos. This is also told me by one Ebay seller that fake Beckett holos are in market  but I need your opinion guys. Thanks
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RE: Fake Beckett Holograms?
Will push this up to be safe..
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RE: Fake Beckett Holograms?
(06-14-2024, 06:02 AM)floydtown Wrote: Will push this up to be safe..
This is where the discussion was going on:
https://live.autographmagazine.com/forum...ent1909335

And here. Look at the auction winning bids.
https://www.reddit.com/user/fakeautograp..._china_is/

And then this seller from China he opens a 12 hour auction to avoid coming under radar. 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/235608491486
https://www.ebay.com/itm/235608493136

Can you imagine Roger Moore and Anya Taylor Joy sold for under 60 dollars? Who would pay 20 dollars for a Beckett verification for these expensive in demand autos and sell for such profit. There is something fishy here. He is from China and listing almost every celebrity and you can see from the history he sold some very expensive autos for prices like 50 to 60 dollars range which is impossible. 

I request you to send this to main Beckett fraud detection team. There is something definitely sketchy going on here. It's not about the COAs only. It's about the cheap signatures and many of them have no flow and clearly done slowly with pen breaks. Kindly check his active listings.

I hope you guys take some action and investigate this and don't just put this under a false threat. I am watching this seller closely. He does these cheap auctions daily and making lots of money. 

I don't know how he pull this one off with the logo but as I mentioned something is going on.
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RE: Fake Beckett Holograms?
They're figuring out a number and linking it. Especially with multiple signature groupings, it makes it much easier. My guess is the QR codes don't actually take you directly to the item page. Have you actually scanned a code from a photo on ebay? The code may be a legitimate code, and so someone can manually type it, but if you are buying online usually the image quality is too poor to scan QR.

Like this lot of signatures all on Same signature, using the old sitcker **Beckett witnessed in Kansas City, MO on 4/14/21** all exactly the same signature

WH44202 https://www.ebay.com/itm/166883037052
WH44300 https://www.charitybuzz.com/catalog_item...ey-2914012
WH44388 https://www.ebay.com/itm/387372340147 silver pen
WH44224 https://www.ebay.com/itm/126662934490

identical- but different signatures than the above
WH44333 https://www.ebay.com/itm/365086813697
WH44324 https://www.ebay.com/itm/387356842204

Signed that date, not on ebay and not identical https://www.supersportscenter.com/produc...ey-beckett
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RE: Fake Beckett Holograms?
(09-13-2024, 06:05 PM)Scrubgrub Wrote: They're figuring out a number and linking it.  Especially with multiple signature groupings, it makes it much easier.  My guess is the QR codes don't actually take you directly to the item page.  Have you actually scanned a code from a photo on ebay?  The code may be a legitimate code, and so someone can manually type it, but if you are buying online usually the image quality is too poor to scan QR.

Like this lot of signatures all on Same signature, using the old sitcker  **Beckett witnessed in Kansas City, MO on 4/14/21** all exactly the same signature

WH44202 https://www.ebay.com/itm/166883037052 
WH44300 https://www.charitybuzz.com/catalog_item...ey-2914012 
WH44388  https://www.ebay.com/itm/387372340147  silver pen
WH44224  https://www.ebay.com/itm/126662934490 

identical- but different signatures than the above
WH44333  https://www.ebay.com/itm/365086813697 
WH44324 https://www.ebay.com/itm/387356842204 

Signed that date, not on ebay and not identical https://www.supersportscenter.com/produc...ey-beckett

Thanks for the input. Finally someone agreeing to me. What's surprising is that the QR code takes to the website. I am not sure how it's possible to forge a sticker of this high calibre. I can understand when they make forgeries with old beckett label but not sure how they managed this with new ones and it's all from China. I think this seller had his account suspended and he made a new account. 

I am not sure why Beckett is not taking this thing into consideration. How come it's possible for a Johnny Depp beckett verified signed photo to go for 40 dollars in an auction. That doesn't cover the price of authentication and return shipping but the admin here disregard my comment and the links I share on this discussion. 
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RE: Fake Beckett Holograms?
So the other thought I had is they're just photoshopping real QR codes/hologram into the photo. I don't feel like spending my money to see what comes.  The actual sticker that arrives could be really poor knockoff. But online you can't tell.
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