[buckunteer]

'nother nice pick up!

Hey TBarn and aarhart, who is this guy on another forum? I realize he's apparently asking a ton of $, but if he has the Mitch lottery prize test refractor I'd at least like to make him an offer. Can somebody PM me what he's asking? Thanks!

[aarhart1985]

'nother nice pick up!

Hey TBarn and aarhart, who is this guy on another forum? I realize he's apparently asking a ton of $, but if he has the Mitch lottery prize test refractor I'd at least like to make him an offer. Can somebody PM me what he's asking? Thanks!

Good luck as he is really stubburn and all about the $$$ - He is well known for being a glutten in the flipping world.Just shoot him a message on ebay.I really don't know how else to get a hold of him.

[buckunteer]

Good luck as he is really stubburn and all about the $$$ - He is well known for being a glutten in the flipping world.Just shoot him a message on ebay.I really don't know how else to get a hold of him.

Oh, so it's that idealz auctions dude? Yeah his price on there is hysterical. Someone MIGHT pay $100-$125 for that card eventually, but if he gets anywhere north of high bv for it it would be very fortunate, as the last two super rare Mitches I've picked up were his other test refractor- in PSA 9- for less than HALF bv and the PMG- in PSA 10- for under high bv as well.

[TBarn291]

Very cool looking card man! Congrats on the pickup. I am a fan of Titanium.

[aarhart1985]

Very cool looking card man! Congrats on the pickup. I am a fan of Titanium.

Thanks bro! I am as well,I know the product has mixed reviews but I dig the parallels and also the patch cards are really nice as well!

[nickm1123]

I really like the Test Refractor. How exactly did these get produced? My assumption is that they were like a promo or a prototype of some sort? How did they get to the public if they were not inserted into packs?

[buckunteer]

I really like the Test Refractor. How exactly did these get produced? My assumption is that they were like a promo or a prototype of some sort? How did they get to the public if they were not inserted into packs?

For the Lottery Prize/Cornerstone test refractors it's still a bit of a mystery. It's likely there are less of them than the mystery test refractors that did slip into packs in 95-96 though.

I also have an update on my attempt to acquire the Mitch from that guy. I sent a full bv offer and he says that he has sold commons for $250. I guess if a player collector HAD to have it that's plausible, seems crazy though. Since Mitch is a semistar/star he wants north of that, which is just way way more than I can pay (that's like 2 months' budget for a starving grad student lol). So I will just wait a couple years til another surfaces I guess!

[aarhart1985]

I really like the Test Refractor. How exactly did these get produced? My assumption is that they were like a promo or a prototype of some sort? How did they get to the public if they were not inserted into packs?

Thanks bro! Rumor is these were decided not to be released into the product for whatever reason (my guess is budget) Meaning there is probably a very limited supply - What was supposed to be destroyed or whatever managed to survive slipped into the packs.The lottery Prize cards seem to show up more often than the Cornerstones so there may be a very low number of them.I myself have seen 3 or 4 LP test Penny's now and 2 Cornerstone test Penny's over my whole tenure of collecting.The only other Penny Cornerstone test I seen was just an image floating around on the next over 10 years ago and a fellow collector made sure to save the image and share it.Nobody knows who possibly owns that particular card.I have the only Penny Cornerstone test that us Penny collectors know of so it's a very special card for sure!

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For the Lottery Prize/Cornerstone test refractors it's still a bit of a mystery. It's likely there are less of them than the mystery test refractors that did slip into packs in 95-96 though.

I also have an update on my attempt to acquire the Mitch from that guy. I sent a full bv offer and he says that he has sold commons for $250. I guess if a player collector HAD to have it that's plausible, seems crazy though. Since Mitch is a semistar/star he wants north of that, which is just way way more than I can pay (that's like 2 months' budget for a starving grad student lol). So I will just wait a couple years til another surfaces I guess!

Commons in his mind are the only 2 he has managed to sell which are the

Mahamad abdu-rauf (spelling? lol) $300

Donyell Marshall - $250

This is what I don't care for in the world of flipping as you will? He knows nearly every 90's player has a collector or 2 so they are going to sell but at this point he is holding them hostage and trying to milk the for every cent he can.I am already over that Penny LP test he has because he is not getting nothing from me.I offered him $200 as soon as I seen him land it hoping he would be happy with a quick double of money...Obviously him and I were galaxy's a part regarding prices which is totally fine with me.He can continue to sit on all of his $$$ if he chooses to do so.