[bakerman8419]

Someone with no feedback bought it and no I didn't purchase the Seau patch I was responding to an earlier post. No this is my only profile by the way. I'm not 2 fisting profies as someone stated earlier. I will not get paid from the person who bought the RG3 they also bought 5 or 6 lower end cards.

The only other thing I want to address is this:

Your statement in your listing...

DUE TO NOVICE COLLECTORS, ALL OFFERS FOR THIS CARD WILL BE DECLINED UNTIL THE CARD IS RECIEVED BACK FROM BECKETT, THERE IS WAY TO MANY PEOPLE ON HERE WHO THINK THEY KNOW MORE ABOUT CARDS THAN THE CARD COMPANY WHO PRODUCED IT. THE ONE'S OF YOU EMAILING ME HAVE BEEN BLOCKED. I WILL LET BECKETT PROVE THE CARD'S AUTHENTICITY, THE CARD WILL GO BACK UP FOR SALE NEXT WEEK AT A NORMAL PRICE. I APPOLOGIZE TO THE GOOD BUYERS STILL ON EBAY, UNFORTUNATELY THERE IS NO WAY TO BLOCK ON EBAY FOR AGE AND STUPIDITY. SO KEEP GOSSIPING ON YOUR FORUMS AND STOP YOUR IDIOTIC EMAILS. AGAIN I APPOLOGIZE TO THE GOOD BUYERS HERE ON EBAY FOR EVEN HAVING TO READ THIS. YOU WOULD THINK A 14 DAY RETURN POLICY WOULD BE ENOUGH.

Just wanted to point out you ripped us and discredited us when all we were trying to do was protect each other from buying a fake patch. We brought it to your attention so you KNEW there is a problem with YOUR item. We basically just covered your backside and yes while Im being serious Im being much more sarcastic when I say this...

I guess "us" novice collectors who "gossip" on our forums just...





TOLD YOU SO!!!!




Sorry but I had to do it...no hard feelings I hope.

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Someone with no feedback bought it and no I didn't purchase the Seau patch I was responding to an earlier post. No this is my only profile by the way. I'm not 2 fisting profies as someone stated earlier. I will not get paid from the person who bought the RG3 they also bought 5 or 6 lower end cards.

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I'm not here to tell anyone off. I'm here to defend myself, thats it. If it comes back from BGS as altered, I will find the sob from the show and press charges. Big mistake doing something like that locally.

The proof doesnt lie with BGS. It lies in this previous auction on the bay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-Robert-Grif...3378953a16

[all day baby]

The proof doesnt lie with BGS. It lies in this previous auction on the bay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-Robert-Grif...3378953a16

Maybe it's just me, but I have a feeling patrick54 paid more than $48.67 for his card.

And yeah patrick54... you DID come here to tell us off. You already did in your auction, but more of us were contacting you, so you decided to come here and let us have it. There isn't any other reason for you to be here. However, you found out what really happened by reading our gossip.

You're welcome.

[mattfastiggi]

No offense but what would ever make anyone think that the Nike team sports tag would have a black background on an RG3 uniform?? Those tags are displayed in the front of the unis, where it should be green or white, and for those that are inside, they wouldn't have a random area of black mess stitching. Although, coul
d be bad scan and it really does have a green border...

And my students wonder why I give out homework

[usafshelland]

Maybe it's just me, but I have a feeling patrick54 paid more than $48.67 for his card.

And yeah patrick54... you DID come here to tell us off. You already did in your auction, but more of us were contacting you, so you decided to come here and let us have it. There isn't any other reason for you to be here. However, you found out what really happened by reading our gossip.

You're welcome.

+1... hmm, member since Dec' '02 but only has a total of 3 posts??? Ya, sounds like came here for one reason only...self-defense.

[patrick54]

I came here to defend myself from the accusations sent to me through ebay. I do not fake cards, and have never tried to. I paid 90 bucks for the card. 90 bucks is not worth my reputation as a seller. If I came here to rip into people, why have I not did so? Becuase that is not my intention. I ripped into the people with the wise cracks on ebay through the listing. I still do not know if the card is a fake until I contact Upper Deck, and if Upper Deck can't help me, BGS will determine the out come for me.

I'm listing these submissions to prove 1 thing and 1 thing only, and that is that I only sell legit products. I would not send all of these cards to BGS for any other reason but to prove they are legit and to give my customers what they deserve and that is authentic graded cards.

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Card Title
Card #

1 Football 1 2010 Panini Plates and Patches #229 Rob Gronkowski JSY AU/699 RC 229
2 Baseball 1 2011 Leaf Pete Rose Legacy Autographed Bats Red Ink #AB17 Pete Rose 0
3 Football 1 2012 Press Pass All American Autographs Blue #AL Andrew Luck 0
4 Football 1 2011 Totally Certified #207 Cam Newton JSY AU/299 RC 207
5 Baseball 1 2012 Topps Gypsy Queen Autographs #AP Albert Pujols 0
6 Baseball 1 2012 Topps Tribute Tribute to the Stars Autographs #DS Darryl Strawberry 0
7 Baseball 1 2012 Topps Tribute Autographs Gold #MCA Miguel Cabrera 0
8 Baseball 1 2012 Topps Tribute Tribute to the Stars Autographs #DS Darryl Strawberry 0
9 Basketball 1 2009-10 Certified #171 Blake Griffin JSY AU RC 171
10 Football 1 2002 SP Authentic Sign of the Times #STPE Julius Peppers/150 * 0
11 Basketball 1 1992 Courtside Flashback Autographs #40 Jim Valvano CO 40
12 Football 1 2011 Playoff Contenders #213A Mark Ingram AU RC 213
13 Football 1 2011 Playoff Contenders #213A Mark Ingram AU RC 213
14 Football 1 2011 Playoff Contenders #225A Andy Dalton AU RC 225
15 Basketball 1 1996 Topps Stars Reprint Autographs #30 George Mikan 30
16 Basketball 1 2006-07 Press Pass Legends Signatures #137 Dean Smith Red/23 137
17 Football 1 2011 Playoff National Treasures #328 Cam Newton JSY AU RC 328
18 Football 1 1999 SP Signature Montana Signature Performances #J10A Joe Montana 0
19 Multisport 1 2011 Upper Deck Goodwin Champions Memorabilia #FDR Franklin Delano Roosevelt A 0
20 Multisport 1 2010 Sportkings Double Memorabilia Silver #DM6 Muhammad Ali/Angelo Dundee 0
21 Boxing 1 2011 Leaf Muhammad Ali Event Worn Memorabilia Bronze #EW17 Muhammad Ali 0
22 Boxing 1 2011 Leaf Muhammad Ali Event Worn Memorabilia Bronze #EW20 Muhammad Ali 0
23 Boxing 1 2011 Leaf Muhammad Ali Event Worn Memorabilia Bronze #EW8 Muhammad Ali 0
24 Boxing 1 2010 Ringside Boxing Round One Quad Memorabilia #QM3 Mike Tyson/Lennox Lewis/Riddick Bowe/Buster Douglas 0
25 Boxing 1 2010 Ringside Boxing Round One Decades #D4 Fernando Vargas/Roy Jones Jr./Micky Ward/Lennox Lewis 0
26 Basketball 1 2007-08 Stadium Club Super Teams Rookie Black X-Fractors #102 Kevin Durant 102
27 Basketball 1 1998-99 Metal Universe Planet Metal #1 Michael Jordan 1
28 Basketball 1 1998-99 Metal Universe Planet Metal #6 Kobe Bryant 6
29 Basketball 1 1998-99 Metal Universe Planet Metal #6 Kobe Bryant 6
30 Basketball 1 1998-99 Ultra Exclamation Points #6 Michael Jordan 6
31 Basketball 1 1998-99 Ultra Exclamation Points #9 Kobe Bryant 9
32 Football 1 2007 Playoff National Treasures Material Trios NFL Prime #13 Jim Brown/Earl Campbell/Barry Sanders 13
33 Football 1 2012 Leaf Vince Lombardi Legacy Jacket Swatches #WJ11 Vince Lombardi 0
34 Boxing 1 2011 Leaf Muhammad Ali Metal Fans of Ali Autographs #FAUM14 Ric Flair 0
35 Boxing 1 2011 Leaf Muhammad Ali Metal Fans of Ali Autographs #FAUM7 Joe Montana 0
36 Boxing 1 2011 Leaf Muhammad Ali Fans of Ali Autographs Bronze #FAU10 Dennis Rodman 0
37 Basketball 1 1996-97 Topps Mystery Finest Bordered Refractors #M14 Michael Jordan 0
38 Basketball 1 1995-96 Topps Mystery Finest Refractors #M1 Michael Jordan 0
39 Basketball 1 1997-98 Topps Generations Refractors #G2 Michael Jordan 0
40 Basketball 1 1992-93 Stadium Club Beam Team #21 Shaquille O'Neal 21
41 Basketball 1 1992-93 Stadium Club Beam Team #21 Shaquille O'Neal 21
42 Basketball 1 1992-93 Stadium Club Beam Team #1 Michael Jordan 1
43 Basketball 1 1992-93 Stadium Club Beam Team #1 Michael Jordan 1
44 Football 1 2001 SP Authentic Rookie Gold 100 #146 Steve Smith 146
45 Basketball 1 1986-87 Fleer #68 Karl Malone RC 68
46 Football 1 2011 Topps Five Star Letter Patch #FSLRL Ray Lewis/5* 0
47 Basketball 1 1998-99 Upper Deck Game Jerseys #GJ37 Karl Malone 0
48 Baseball 1 1989 Upper Deck #1 Ken Griffey Jr. RC 1
49 Baseball 1 1989 Upper Deck #1 Ken Griffey Jr. RC 1
50 Football 1 2007 Press Pass Legends Autographs #66 Darrelle Revis 66
51 Baseball 1 1953 Topps #220 Satchel Paige UER 220
52 Basketball 1 1998-99 SPx Finite Radiance #201 Michael Jordan FE 201
53 Baseball 1 1969 Topps #500B Mickey Mantle White Letters (Mantle) UER (NO Topps Copyright on Back) 500
54 Baseball 1 1968 Topps #247 Rookie Stars/Johnny Bench RC/Ron Tompkins UER (the is Misspelled in First Line) 247
55 Basketball 9 1992-93 Hoops Magic's All-Rookies #1 Shaquille O'Neal 1
56 Basketball 2 1992-93 Fleer All-Stars #6 Michael Jordan ! 6
57 Basketball 1 1992-93 Fleer Total D #5 Michael Jordan ! 5
58 Baseball 1 1953 Topps #244 Willie Mays 244
59 Baseball 1 1958 Topps #52A Roberto Clemente 52
60 Baseball 1 1958 Topps #375 Pee Wee Reese 375
61 Baseball 2 1958 Topps #30A Hank Aaron 30
62 Baseball 1 1960 Topps #148 Carl Yastrzemski RS RC 148
63 Baseball 1 1960 Topps #316 Willie McCovey ASR RC 316
64 Baseball 2 1960 Topps #10 Ernie Banks 10
65 Baseball 1 1960 Topps #377 Roger Maris 377
66 Baseball 1 1960 Topps #73 Bob Gibson 73
67 Baseball 1 1960 Topps #350 Mickey Mantle 350
68 Baseball 1 1960 Topps #200 Willie Mays 200
69 Baseball 1 1962 Topps #425 Carl Yastrzemski 425
70 Baseball 1 1956 Topps #79A Sandy Koufax GB 79
71 Baseball 1 1957 Topps #328 Brooks Robinson RC 328
72 Baseball 1 1957 Topps #35 Frank Robinson RC 35
73 Baseball 1 1957 Topps #10 Willie Mays 10
74 Baseball 2 1980 Topps #482 Rickey Henderson RC/UER 7 steals at/Modesto should be Fresno 482
75 Basketball 1 1992-93 Hoops #NNO Barcelona Plastic 0
76 Basketball 1 2003-04 Upper Deck Super Swatches #MJSS Michael Jordan 0
77 Baseball 1 1953 Bowman Color #18 Nellie Fox 18
78 Football 1 1969 Topps #26 Brian Piccolo UER RC 26
79 Football 1 1958 Topps #62 Jim Brown RC 62
80 Football 1 1966 Philadelphia #31 Dick Butkus RC 31
81 Basketball 1 1998-99 Upper Deck Ovation #BK1 Michael Jordan Ball/90 0
82 Football 1 2011 Topps Triple Threads Autographed Relic Combos Emerald #TTARC6 Cam Newton/Jake Locker/Blaine Gabbert 0
83 Basketball 1 1998-99 Upper Deck Game Jerseys #GJ25 Hakeem Olajuwon 0
84 Basketball 1 2000-01 Upper Deck Ovation A Piece of History #MJS Michael Jordan Shoe 0
85 Football 1 1971 Topps #156 Terry Bradshaw RC 156
86 Basketball 2 1970-71 Topps #50 Wilt Chamberlain 50
87 Basketball 1 1969-70 Topps #1 Wilt Chamberlain 1
88 Basketball 1 1969-70 Topps #20 John Havlicek RC 20
89 Basketball 2 1970-71 Topps #10 John Havlicek SP ! 10
90 Basketball 1 1970-71 Topps #173 Playoff G6/Wilt 173
91 Basketball 1 1969-70 Topps #50 Oscar Robertson 50
92 Basketball 1 1970-71 Topps #100 Oscar Robertson 100
93 Basketball 1 1969-70 Topps #90 Jerry West 90
94 Baseball 1 1963 Topps #537 Rookie Stars/Pedro Gonzalez RC/Ken McMullen RC/Al Weis RC/Pete Rose RC 537
95 Baseball 1 1964 Topps #125 Pete Rose UER/Born in 1942 125
96 Baseball 1 1965 Topps #207 Pete Rose 207
97 Baseball 1 1966 Topps #30 Pete Rose DP 30
98 Basketball 2 1961-62 Fleer #47 Wilt Chamberlain IA ! 47
99 Basketball 1 1961-62 Fleer #36 Oscar Robertson RC 36
100 Basketball 1 1961-62 Fleer #61 Oscar Robertson IA ! 61
101 Basketball 1 1961-62 Fleer #38 Bill Russell ! 38
102 Basketball 1 1961-62 Fleer #62 Bill Russell IA ! 62
103 Basketball 2 1961-62 Fleer #66 Jerry West IA ! 66
104 Basketball 1 1985-86 Star All-Rookie Team #8 John Stockton 8
105 Basketball 1 1986 Star Court Kings #14 Patrick Ewing ! 14
106 Basketball 1 1984-85 Star #76 Dominique Wilkins 76
107 Basketball 1 1998-99 UD Ionix Reciprocal #2 Michael Jordan 2
108 Basketball 1 1998 Upper Deck MJx Timepieces Bronze #45 Michael Jordan 45
109 Basketball 1 1998 Upper Deck MJx #82 Michael Jordan 82
110 Basketball 1 1998 Upper Deck MJx Timepieces Bronze #26 Michael Jordan 26
111 Basketball 1 1997-98 Finest Embossed #154 Michael Jordan G 154
112 Basketball 1 1993-94 Finest Refractors #1 Michael Jordan 1
113 Basketball 1 1995-96 Finest Refractors #229 Michael Jordan 229
114 Basketball 1 1995-96 Finest Mystery Borderless Refractors/Gold #M1 Michael Jordan 0
115 Basketball 1 2007-08 Upper Deck All-Star Die Cuts #AS10 Michael Jordan 0
116 Football 1 1975 Topps #282 Lynn Swann UER RC 282
117 Football 1 1973 Topps #89 Franco Harris RC 89
118 Football 1 1975 Topps #416 Joe Theismann RC 416
119 Football 1 1973 Topps #487 Ken Stabler RC 487
120 Football 1 1972 Topps #200 Roger Staubach RC 200
121 Football 1 1968 Topps #161 Fran Tarkenton 161
122 Football 1 1962 Topps #90 Fran Tarkenton SP RC 90
123 Football 1 1962 Topps #88 Roman Gabriel SP RC 88
124 Football 1 1962 Topps #115 Sonny Jurgensen 115
125 Football 1 1958 Topps #90 Sonny Jurgensen RC 90
126 Football 1 1958 Topps #22 Johnny Unitas UER 22
127 Football 1 1958 Topps #86 Y.A.Tittle 86
128 Football 1 1958 Topps #129 George Blanda 129
129 Football 1 1958 Topps #73 Frank Gifford 73
130 Football 1 1958 Topps #10 Lenny Moore 10
131 Football 1 1958 Topps #66 Bart Starr UER 66
132 Football 1 1959 Topps #130 Y.A.Tittle 130
133 Football 1 1971 Topps #200 Bart Starr 200
134 Football 1 1968 Topps #75 Gale Sayers 75
135 Football 1 1968 Topps #196 Bob Griese RC 196
136 Football 1 1967 Topps #98 Joe Namath 98
137 Football 1 1969 Topps #161 Bob Griese 161
138 Football 1 1960 Topps #23 Jim Brown 23
139 Football 1 1960 Topps #1 Johnny Unitas 1
140 Football 1 1990 Score Supplemental #65T Junior Seau 65
141 Football 1 2000 UD Ionix #97 Brian Urlacher RC 97
142 Football 2 1989 Score #270 Troy Aikman RC 270
143 Football 1 1989 Score #257 Barry Sanders RC 257
144 Football 1 1981 Topps #216 Joe Montana RC 216
145 Basketball 1 2005-06 Finest Refractors Red #85 LeBron James 85
146 Basketball 1 1998-99 Topps Roundball Royalty #R1 Michael Jordan 0
147 Basketball 1 2007-08 Finest Refractors Black #32 Shaquille O'Neal 32
148 Basketball 1 2007-08 Finest Refractors Gold #32 Shaquille O'Neal 32
149 Basketball 1 1999-00 Finest Refractors #186 Shaquille O'Neal 186
150 Baseball 2 1961 Topps #287 Carl Yastrzemski 287
151 Baseball 2 1961 Topps #211 Bob Gibson 211
152 Baseball 1 1958 Topps #5 Willie Mays 5
153 Baseball 1 1958 Topps #1 Ted Williams 1
154 Baseball 1 1958 Topps #476 Stan Musial AS TP 476
155 Baseball 1 1959 Topps #338 Sparky Anderson RC 338
156 Baseball 1 1957 Topps #1 Ted Williams 1
157 Baseball 1 1969 Topps #260 Reggie Jackson RC 260
158 Baseball 1 1964 Topps #50 Mickey Mantle 50
159 Baseball 1 1959 Topps #202 Roger Maris 202
160 Baseball 1 1960 Topps #300 Hank Aaron 300
161 Baseball 1 1969 Topps #533 Nolan Ryan 533
162 Baseball 1 1955 Topps #194 Willie Mays 194
163 Baseball 1 1955 Bowman #179 Hank Aaron 179
164 Baseball 1 1955 Bowman #242 Ernie Banks 242
165 Baseball 1 1959 Topps #350 Ernie Banks 350
166 Baseball 1 1964 Topps #150 Willie Mays 150
167 Baseball 1 1954 Topps #50 Yogi Berra 50
168 Baseball 2 1966 Topps #1 Willie Mays 1
169 Baseball 1 1965 Topps #540 Lou Brock SP 540
170 Baseball 1 1962 Topps #18 Managers Dream (Mickey Mantle and Willie Mays) 18
171 Baseball 1 1962 Topps #5 Sandy Koufax UER (Struck ou 18) 5
172 Football 1 2001 Playoff Honors Rookie Tandem Jerseys #RT3 D.Brees/L.Tomlinson 0
173 Baseball 1 1965 Topps #5 AL RBI Leaders/Brooks Robinson/Harmon Killebrew/Mickey Mantle/Dick Stuart 5
174 Basketball 1 2006-07 Finest Refractors #22 LeBron James 22
175 Basketball 1 2006-07 Finest Refractors #5 Dwyane Wade 5
176 Basketball 1 2002-03 Finest #182 Dwyane Wade XRC 182
177 Baseball 1 1964 Topps #300 Hank Aaron 300
178 Baseball 1 1956 Topps #31 Hank Aaron UER DP (Small photo is Willie Mays) 31
179 Baseball 1 1965 Topps #170 Hank Aaron 170
180 Basketball 1 2007-08 Fleer Hot Prospects #131 Joakim Noah JSY AU RC 131
181 Basketball 1 2007-08 Stadium Club Super Teams Rookie Black X-Fractors #109 Joakim Noah 109
182 Basketball 1 1997-98 SkyBox Premium Competitive Advantage #CA4 Shaquille O'Neal 0
183 Football 1 2010 Playoff Contenders #101 Aaron Hernandez AU RC 101
184 Football 1 1964 Topps #155 Lance Alworth 155
185 Basketball 1 1992-93 Ultra All-Rookies #7 Shaquille O'Neal 7
186 Basketball 1 1993-94 Fleer Rookie Sensations #18 Shaquille O'Neal 18
187 Basketball 2 1988-89 Fleer #20 Scottie Pippen UER RC 20
Total Qty: 208




Grading Service Totals
Total cards 208


Here is the 2nd submission from last week:


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1 Basketball 1 2007-08 Fleer Hot Prospects Autographics #KD2 Kevin Durant Blue 0
2 Football 1 2011 Limited Prime Signatures #2 Bo Jackson/Cam Newton 2
3 Football 1 1992 Pro Line Portraits Team NFL Autographs #1B Cassius Clay back AU 1
4 Boxing 1 2010 Ringside Boxing Round One Autographs #AALI3 Muhammad Ali/20* 0
5 Boxing 1 2011 Ringside Boxing Round Two Autographs #ATM2 Tommy Morrison 0
6 Multisport 1 2009 Sportkings Autograph Silver #MT2 Mike Tyson/40* 0
7 Multisport 1 1971 Mattel Mini-Records #BK3 Wilt Chamberlain 0
8 Multisport 1 1971 Mattel Mini-Records #BK5 Pete Maravich 0
9 Basketball 1 1998-99 Upper Deck Game Jerseys #GJ20 Michael Jordan 0
10 Basketball 1 1993-94 Ultra Scoring Kings #5 Michael Jordan 5
11 Basketball 1 1961-62 Fleer #16 Hal Greer RC 16




MY POINT OF LISTING THIS IS TO PROVE I TRY TO ONLY SELL HIGH END AUTHENTIC [PRODUCTS AND TO ONLY SELL LEGIT ITEMS, OTHERWISE I WOULD NOT SPEND ALL THIS CASH ON GETTING CARDS GRADED.

[bakerman8419]

Im not accusing you of selling anything fake at all. I actually defended you if you look back.

As for submitting the card into BGS...have you not taken a look at this previous auction yet from two weeks ago??????

I will post it once again

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-Robert-Grif...3378953a16

THIS IS YOUR CARD!!! The guy who has been selling fakes left and right bought it, inserted a fake patch and then sold it to you!!! YOU ARE INNOCENT!!! However this whole "Im going to send it to Beckett thing" is showing you are in denial.

The serial # matches up. The time frame matches up. You dont have to prove you dont sell fake patches. You need to accept the RG3 in your possession is fake. Thats all.

From this point you need to find the person who sold you the card and get your money back. Once you get your cash back stomp on that card so that crooked seller can not pass it along to someone else. Sucks that someone would damaged a RG3 2-clr patch in the first place. Good Luck!

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Oh and on a hobby side note...

The cards you submitted made me crap my pants!!! Awesome stuff!!!

[patrick54]

The seller of the original auction numbered 8/10 just contacted me and said he shipped the card to TN. TN to NC is very plausible. I will find out who he is and press charges for fraud the card will not be sold by me. Everyone has my word...I was taken for a ride and apologize if I was rude to anyone on here.

[slotman11]

Let me get this straight... The seller that sold this card to you offered you a RGIII Nike tag winning materials patch card /10 for $90, and you thought NOTHING was fishy at all??? If in fact you did buy this card faked, you need to do the right thing and destroy it... If "$90" is not worth your "reputation" as a seller, then do the right thing... Burn it or chop it up on you tube for all of us to see...

[giantfan270]

BTW, BGS does NOT authenticate patches. They authenticate the card and check for tampering around the patch window, but they do not authenticate patches. Sending it to BGS will do nothing. They may even slab it authentic. There is a certain someone on this site with a pretty well known Rickey Williams patch. The card was determined to be altered with a sharpie on one submission. The owner resubmitted on another submission and had it slabbed "authentic" when it should have been slabbed "authentic altered". It sort of legitimizes the tampering. If you sent yours in I have a feeling the same thing would happen. It would get slabbed authentic, and the patch swap would then be considered real. Destroy the card!

[patrick54]

BTW, BGS does NOT authenticate patches. They authenticate the card and check for tampering around the patch window, but they do not authenticate patches. Sending it to BGS will do nothing. They may even slab it authentic. There is a certain someone on this site with a pretty well known Rickey Williams patch. The card was determined to be altered with a sharpie on one submission. The owner resubmitted on another submission and had it slabbed "authentic" when it should have been slabbed "authentic altered". It sort of legitimizes the tampering. If you sent yours in I have a feeling the same thing would happen. It would get slabbed authentic, and the patch swap would then be considered real. Destroy the card!

I will destroy it, but I would prefer to get the one responsible in trouble before I do. This has made me look bad, and I had no part in tampering with the card. I simply purchased the card.