[dabears 1985]

Are they the same thing? Why do they use two names?

[cybertrenz02]

One is for newer produced cards (BGS) and the other is for older produced cards (BVG).... I think they take into account the problems with the older cards with the bvg than they do with the bgs....scrutinize less

[ugameck]

Beckett Vintage Grading - right? Everything 1980 and older can be stabbed, right?

[ejnfl24]

BGS - Beckett Grading Service

BVG - Beckett Vintage Grading

[englandhousehold]

I know if talking to the main BGS guy when I had a problem with another card I asked him that specifically. BVG has one guy that does all vintage grading. I guess he's been doing it longer or has an eye better for it or whatever you "need" to be a "good" grader. I hope that clears it up a little for you as I used to wonder my self and just like everyone has mentioned prior, it's certain years....It's either 1980 as ugameck mentioned or 1982 I can't remember which.

[dabears 1985]

Thanks everyone, was just curious

I think that's pretty cool that they do that. Like Cybertrenz said that makes sense they don't grade as harshly

[charlesmossman99]

I would use PSA for any vintage card