[ilovetheshootout]

I AM officially making the switch to Panini products, who cares if they use the same designs across the board, i only collect hockey anyway! this is all about the awful awful awful AWFUL boxes i got of Ultimate Collection by Upper Deck. they suck. in Every box i got, i got Book Value half of what i paid ie. say ultimate was 100 in every box the bv value was 50 or less...crap cards crap company....i know u could say i just had a couple of bad boxes but ive had it up to here with upper deck! they dont even have a strong cs! no phone number on their wrappers anymore. if you any one likes ultmate, hit me up, ill trade it, but i am making the 'switch' to panini for 2011-12

[nuccionino]

I AM officially making the switch to Panini products, who cares if they used the same designs across the board, i only collect hockey anyway! this is all about the awful awful awful AWFUL boxes i got of Ultimate Collection by Upper Deck. they suck. in Every box i got, i got Book Value half of what i paid ie. say ultimate was 100 in every box the bv value was 50 or less...crap cards crap company....i know u could say i just had a couple of bad boxes but ive had it up to here with upper deck! they dont even have a strong cs! no phone number on their wrappers anymore. if you any one likes ultmate, hit me up, ill trade it, but i am making the 'switch' to panini for 2011-12

Did you get any missing hits?

[ilovetheshootout]

of course i did dude, i got 3-4 cards and Blockers!! and the cards i did get are virtually useless.
point also is that i am on disability, so when i treat myself to mid-high end stuff like 4-5 card packs/box, i expect MORE BANG for my buck gddammit

[nuccionino]

of course i did dude, i got 3-4 cards and Blockers!! and the cards i did get are virtually useless

Ok well if you got missing hits, you have a good complaint, and hope you saved your stuff to send in. But if you just got unlucky, that isn't UD fault. That can happen with any company.

[ilovetheshootout]

That can happen with any company.

i know this man however I have never felt so cheated by a company, not once with panini this year, no in fact i find it very difficult to get my money's worth buying ud products. so for me, it;s the logical decision - time to switch ships

lesson also learned is that i will not be wasting my dollars on a signle high end box, only to get burnt. i think i belong with the cheaper stuff, and i will think i stay there lol

[nuccionino]

i know this man however I have never felt so cheated by a company, not once with panini this year, no in fact i find it very difficult to get my money's worth buying ud products. so for me, it;s the logical decision - time to switch ships

lesson also learned is that i will not be wasting my dollars on a signle high end box, only to get burnt. i think i belong with the cheaper stuff, and i will think i stay there lol

Only use the money on The Cup or Dominion when it comes to high-end, it is hand packed. I think you are more upset for spending $400 and getting poop. But people have spent that on Limited and got poop. It goes both ways. Maybe stick to lower end, where both products do a lot better ROI wise.

[ilovetheshootout]

Only use the money on The Cup or Dominion when it comes to high-end, it is hand packed. I think you are more upset for spending $400 and getting poop. But people have spent that on Limited and got poop. It goes both ways. Maybe stick to lower end, where both products do a lot better ROI wise.

All you have said i concur with...still, next season i will have to make choices like certified over artifacts, etc etc,. and i will stick with certified over ser 1/artifacts.

upper deck, richard mcwilliam: go to hell!!!!

[nuccionino]

All you have said i concur with...still, next season i will have to make choices like certified over artifacts, etc etc,. and i will stick with certified over ser 1/artifacts.

upper deck, richard mcwilliam: go to hell!!!!

That surprises me, Series 1 is the best product out there, especially for ROI.

[snobles]

Good luck with their redemption system...not that UD is any better but at least they respond to you.

[bonnev659]

both panini and ud has pros and cons to them....

if you want to try ITG. they pretty solid for hits per box