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Josmil Pinto/JR Murphy/Christian Bethancourt/Travis d'Arnaud?? - mjmj1966 - 01-24-2015
Since it's pretty much dried up trading for 2014 Finest I want to pc a player. Went through the Finest set looking at rookie catchers and came up with these 4. Since I only really know anything about 2 of them (d'Arnaud was a Phillies prospect and Bethancourt is in the Phillies division) I was wondering who everyone thinks would be a good player to pc and who has the greater upside. I'm leaning towards Josmil Pinto cause he's someone new to me. Opinions??
RE: Josmil Pinto/JR Murphy/Christian Bethancourt/Travis d'Arnaud?? - roger rabbit - 01-24-2015
I'd rule out Murphy as I think there are better catchers in the same system. Bethancourt will take over this year, d'Arnaud is already getting old for a prospect and Pinto kind of came from nowhere the last couple of years as he was never highly rated. There's lots out there for d'Arnaud already. Personally I'd rank them:
1) Bethancourt
2) d'Arnaud
3) Pinto
4) Murphy
But any of the top 3 would be fun to collect.
RE: Josmil Pinto/JR Murphy/Christian Bethancourt/Travis d'Arnaud?? - mjmj1966 - 01-24-2015
(01-24-2015, 06:49 PM)roger rabbit Wrote: I'd rule out Murphy as I think there are better catchers in the same system. Bethancourt will take over this year, d'Arnaud is already getting old for a prospect and Pinto kind of came from nowhere the last couple of years as he was never highly rated. There's lots out there for d'Arnaud already. Personally I'd rank them:
1) Bethancourt
2) d'Arnaud
3) Pinto
4) Murphy
But any of the top 3 would be fun to collect.
Thanks for the info. d'Arnaud does have a lot out there and I don't think I want to start back that far so I'm ruling him out. Looks like it's Bethancourt or Pinto.
RE: Josmil Pinto/JR Murphy/Christian Bethancourt/Travis d'Arnaud?? - petillo64 - 01-25-2015
I'd go bethancourt too. If his bat comes around a bit he'll be an all-star.
RE: Josmil Pinto/JR Murphy/Christian Bethancourt/Travis d'Arnaud?? - madamson - 01-25-2015
Pinto!!! (I'm biased, because I'm a Twins fan). If you choose him, PM me your address. I'll get you started.
RE: Josmil Pinto/JR Murphy/Christian Bethancourt/Travis d'Arnaud?? - ne12bc12 - 01-25-2015
(01-24-2015, 06:49 PM)roger rabbit Wrote: I'd rule out Murphy as I think there are better catchers in the same system. Bethancourt will take over this year, d'Arnaud is already getting old for a prospect and Pinto kind of came from nowhere the last couple of years as he was never highly rated. There's lots out there for d'Arnaud already. Personally I'd rank them:
1) Bethancourt
2) d'Arnaud
3) Pinto
4) Murphy
But any of the top 3 would be fun to collect.
I would go with this ranking also except I would swap the 1 and 2.
RE: Josmil Pinto/JR Murphy/Christian Bethancourt/Travis d'Arnaud?? - tate31nym - 01-26-2015
I started a small d'Arnaud PC when he was still a prospect because the Mets hope big things from him. He got a little delayed in his debut with some injuries, but I think he has potential to fill a lot of their expectations. So I'll continue my PC for a bit and see where things go.
RE: Josmil Pinto/JR Murphy/Christian Bethancourt/Travis d'Arnaud?? - jaredhuizenga - 01-26-2015
Lots of question marks with Pinto. Namely, if he's going to stick at catcher.
His bat is about as MLB-ready as it's going to get, but he's viewed as a defensive liability. And he likely is what he is behind the plate because he's barely young enough to qualify as a prospect any more.
For now he'll stick at catcher because the Twins already have Mauer, Arcia, Vargas and Hunter who will see time at DH, 1B and corner OF positions. Also, he's blocked by Kurt Suzuki and his new 2-year contract extension.
So bottom line: decent hitter with plus power, average to below average defender and blocked by veterans and more promising/younger prospects.
RE: Josmil Pinto/JR Murphy/Christian Bethancourt/Travis d'Arnaud?? - glassnickels - 01-26-2015
Why do the Yankees even bother drafting catchers? They always end up picking up an old FA to start and let the young guys sit as backups or in the minors (see Cervelli, Romine, Murphy). I guess this is their M.O. with pretty much every position, but I collect Yankees catchers so I notice more. Young talent just languishes in that system.
RE: Josmil Pinto/JR Murphy/Christian Bethancourt/Travis d'Arnaud?? - mjmj1966 - 01-26-2015
(01-26-2015, 12:27 PM)glassnickels Wrote: I guess this is their M.O. with pretty much every position, but I collect Yankees catchers so I notice more. Young talent just languishes in that system.
I never thought about collecting a teams catchers. I tried doing all catchers and it got overwhelming as I was warned it might. I may have to look into this.
(01-26-2015, 11:01 AM)jaredhuizenga Wrote: Lots of question marks with Pinto. Namely, if he's going to stick at catcher.
This was the problem I was having with my catchers pc. Knowing when they switched to a different position especially with prospects starting as catchers then moving to a different position in the bigs. For me it wasn't an easy pc to keep track of.