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RE: 2011 Bowman Platinum 5 case break and contest thread (Contest #2 now live) - pyweed - 07-28-2011 Case #2, Box #8 Emerald prospect refractor /599: Tim Beckham Blue prospect refractor /199: Ryan Lavarnway Auto: Brandon Guyer Green auto /399: Jordan Pacheco USA auto Gold auto relic redemption: Brett Cecil Grade: C Comments: Not sure how to price the Cecil patch auto. It’s not a key card, but those patches can be pretty nice looking. Probably no better than $10 CV, though. Case #2, Box #9 Emerald prospect refractor /599: Tyler Skaggs Blue prospect refractor /199: Avisail Garcia Autos: Delino DeShields, Michael Choice Auto relic /1166: Max Ramirez Grade: D Comments: A couple of decent base autos. RE: 2011 Bowman Platinum 5 case break and contest thread (Contest #2 now live) - pyweed - 07-29-2011 Case #2, Box #10 Emerald prospect refractor /599: Kyle Parker Blue prospect refractor /199: Shelby Miller Autos: Brad Holt, Mike Foltynewicz Auto relic redemption: Brett Cecil Grade: D Comments: Brett Freaking Cecil again. Case #2, Box #11 Emerald prospect refractor /599: Christian Colon Gold prospect refractor /50: Matt Dominguez Auto: Tyler Skaggs Emerald auto: HARPER????!!!!!! Auto relic /1166: Emilio Bonafacio Grade: C- Comments: Another mystery redemption. RE: 2011 Bowman Platinum 5 case break and contest thread (Contest #2 now live) - yankeescop - 07-29-2011 Case #3 Box #3, Rockies 23-8 RE: 2011 Bowman Platinum 5 case break and contest thread (Contest #2 now live) - pyweed - 07-29-2011 Case #2, Box #12 Emerald prospect refractors /599: Zach Lee, Kyle Seager Auto: Garrett Richards Emerald auto /399: Domingo Santana Auto relic /1166: Leo Nunez Grade: D- Comments: No magic at the end of the case. RE: 2011 Bowman Platinum 5 case break and contest thread (Contest #2 now live) - johnxgodfree - 07-29-2011 hoping for some big hits in those last 3 for ya! RE: 2011 Bowman Platinum 5 case break and contest thread (Contest #2 now live) - daytonator - 07-29-2011 I appreciate this break and ur analysis is excellent, however I think some of ur valuations are low. I cannot believe (as in I do not believe whatsoever) that all 24 of your boxes have been below average, that is just unheard of. Any box with a superfractor in it is usually pretty good. Likewise with the Castro auto/relic box. Lighten up on Topps a bit. Good luck with the rest of your break thogugh, you are very generous with your time etc for doing this. RE: 2011 Bowman Platinum 5 case break and contest thread (Contest #2 now live) - pyweed - 07-29-2011 (07-29-2011, 03:46 AM)daytonator Wrote: I appreciate this break and ur analysis is excellent, however I think some of ur valuations are low. I cannot believe (as in I do not believe whatsoever) that all 24 of your boxes have been below average, that is just unheard of. Any box with a superfractor in it is usually pretty good. Likewise with the Castro auto/relic box. Lighten up on Topps a bit. Good luck with the rest of your break thogugh, you are very generous with your time etc for doing this. Yeah, I can see how it might seem that I'm just being negative. For a little emotional balance, you can look at my 2010 Bowman Sterling thread (5 case break graded A): http://www.beckett.com/forums/thread-1404523.html or for a more direct comparison, my 2010 Bowman Platinum thread (5 case thread graded B): http://www.beckett.com/forums/thread-1396290.html Through 2 cases of 2011 Bowman Platinum I am headed towards a D grade without a single above average box. By "average" I mean that the cards in it have aggregate cash value approaching what I paid for the box. So my definition of average doesn't compel me to grade on a curve within the break. If I did, the superfractor box would be above average as you said. But consider the cash value of that superfractor. What do you think it would bring in an auction on eBay? Pretty tough to evaluate because at the time I pulled it there hadn't been any supers sold yet. My best estimate of its cash value was $45. Perhaps that's conservative. A Jordan Pacheco super later sold for $125 and a Matt Moore sold for $205. On the other hand, there isn't much market for Puello. His parallel cards aren't selling well, if at all. So I think $45 may be in the ballpark. Now consider that I paid a little over $91 for the box. For me to grade the box at above average, the cash value of the remaining cards need to total well above $91, and frankly, I just didn't get there. I got to about what I paid for, which is why I graded it a C. Hope this helps understand my methodology. I really like hearing different opinions about the cash value of these cards, especially early in the game when eBay isn't much help in that regard. I want to be as accurate as possible, even if that means grading every box above average or every box below average. Nathan Case #2 Summary Autos: Leon Landry Anderson Feliz Kyle Seager Clint Robinson Jordan Pacheco Cody Scarpetta Cutter Dykstra Jordan Swagerty Kyle Parker Tyler Skaggs (2) Brandon Guyer Delino DeShields Michael Choice Brad Holt Mike Foltynewicz Garrett Richards Mystery Redemption Emerald autos /399: Jimmy Paredes Mike Foltynewicz Jordan Pacheco Domingo Santana Mystery Redemption Gold auto /50: Miguel De Los Santos USA Autos (2) Auto relics /1166: Evan Meek Yamacio Navarro John McDonald Max Ramirez Brett Cecil Emilio Bonafacio Leo Nunez Auto relics /666: J. P. Arencibia Starlin Castro Auto relic /115: Austin Jackson Green auto relic /199: Trevor Bell Gold auto relic /25: Brett Cecil Grade: D Comments:This was a better case than Case #1, but it’s still a significant loss relative to my outlay. These boxes were worth about $72 each. The Puello super is the hit of the break so far, which means that out of 2160 cards none of them likely have a CV of $50, which rarely happens with a Bowman product. I’ll start posting Case #3 Friday night, and with some luck I’ll be done with the break Sunday. Good luck in the contest everyone! RE: 2011 Bowman Platinum 5 case break and contest thread (Contest #2 now live) - _ZENAS_ - 07-29-2011 Case 3, Box 9; Rockies 15, Padres 9 RE: 2011 Bowman Platinum 5 case break and contest thread (Contest #2 now live) - andrewinnc - 07-29-2011 Case #4, Box #8; Padres 17, Rockies 14. Great contest and good luck on the break! RE: 2011 Bowman Platinum 5 case break and contest thread (Contest #2 now live) - benner73 - 07-29-2011 Case 4, box 2 Rockies 8-4 |