Polarizing pair’s autos to hit block via Pristine

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By Chris Olds | Beckett Baseball Editor

A dual cut autograph featuring signatures of two of baseball’s more-polarizing figures will hit the auction block later this month.

A Pete Rose-Joe Jackson cut from the 2012 Historic Autographs Why the Hall Not? series will be sold through Phoenix, Ariz.-based Pristine Auction on Nov. 7.

Rose and Jackson both appear on MLB’s Ineligible List for their ties to gambling scandals. Rose, who admitted gambling on baseball while a manager, and Jackson, who was one of the eight players banned from baseball as part of the 1919 Black Sox scandal to throw the World Series, cannot appear on MLB-licensed card products.

While Rose is a prolific signer, Jackson’s autographs are limited because he was believed to be illiterate for much of his life, only learning to sign his name in his later years.

The auction opens on Oct. 25.

Chris Olds is the editor of Beckett Baseball magazine. Have a comment, question or idea? Send an email to him at colds@beckett.com. Follow him on Twitter by clicking here.


  1. Hscshooter
    Posted Monday October 15th, 2012 at 02:19 PM | Permalink

    Any idea where they got a Joe Jackson Auto?

  2. Richard
    Posted Monday October 15th, 2012 at 03:30 PM | Permalink

    Oh god. It looks like they took the FULL names of each and cut them in half
    to make 2 cards. That’s just so freaking wrong and cheap of them.

  3. Posted Monday October 15th, 2012 at 03:38 PM | Permalink

    With all the Pete Rose autos out there ($30 at Target will get you a nice fresh one), why did Historic Autographs choose that first name only cut?

  4. chrisolds
    Posted Monday October 15th, 2012 at 03:46 PM | Permalink


  5. ddizzal
    Posted Monday October 15th, 2012 at 06:33 PM | Permalink

    cool card, but dang its ugly

  6. Posted Monday October 15th, 2012 at 09:14 PM | Permalink

    Rare or not, that is one fugly card.

  7. Chris P
    Posted Monday October 15th, 2012 at 09:50 PM | Permalink

    The Pete (Rose) auto is ugly and I can get a pristine auto for less than 20.00. I like the concept but “why not” cut the slots to fit the autograph cuts like Famous Fabrics or Leaf at the bare minimum.

  8. Posted Tuesday October 16th, 2012 at 04:42 AM | Permalink

    I am wondering how that Joe Jackson signature was authenticated by PSA, that is in no way similar to the few real Jackson signatures out there. He was illiterate and was not able to sign his name until late in his life and even than it looked like a child’s signature. That signature appears to be pretty smooth and in cursive, I would bet my right arm that this signature is actually from his wife, Kate Jackson, who signed for him regularly.

    To add insult to injury, this is a perfect example of a horrible franken-cut signature card. I would be interested to see what this card sells for when the auction closes.

  9. Hscshooter
    Posted Tuesday October 16th, 2012 at 09:51 AM | Permalink

    To follow-up that up from Corky, he’s bang on. What makes PSA think that’s Joe Jackson’s actual auto? Yes he was illiterate but later on in life he would have been able to at least sign his name with enough practice. I could put a pen in my toes and sign it like that. God ugly card. What a waste. PSA just keeps on pumping out “authenticated” cards like that. I’ll go further and beg my right leg that card doesn’t get my action at auction because of its look and signatures. Good luck.

  10. card opinionator
    Posted Tuesday October 16th, 2012 at 02:36 PM | Permalink

    There is never a good reason to split an autograph. NEVER.

  11. CardGraders
    Posted Thursday October 18th, 2012 at 05:45 PM | Permalink

    Absolutely horrific. Franken-cut is being generous…

  12. cardcollector777
    Posted Friday October 19th, 2012 at 03:40 PM | Permalink

    Everyone is a bunch of haters. A Joe Jackson autographs is as rare as they come and this one is authenticated by PSA/DNA. It doesn’t get better than this. I will be interested to see how the auction goes. Could go through the roof!

  13. Darrin
    Posted Monday October 22nd, 2012 at 06:40 PM | Permalink

    No doubt, Cardcollector777, This is a rare signature that could go sky high.

  14. Darrin
    Posted Monday October 22nd, 2012 at 07:11 PM | Permalink

    This auction is actually already running and up to $3500

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