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		<title>By: chrisolds</title>
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		<dc:creator>chrisolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2013 20:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Barry: You might be. Products that have taken that approach in recent years have floundered and not lasted -- because they did not sell enough to justify their existence. Example: Topps Total. 

The story itself is inaccurate for many reasons -- for example, the Internet&#039;s presence isn&#039;t addressed fully. Plenty of cardboard -- old and new -- gets sold online.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry: You might be. Products that have taken that approach in recent years have floundered and not lasted &#8212; because they did not sell enough to justify their existence. Example: Topps Total. </p>
<p>The story itself is inaccurate for many reasons &#8212; for example, the Internet&#8217;s presence isn&#8217;t addressed fully. Plenty of cardboard &#8212; old and new &#8212; gets sold online.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry McClure</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry McClure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2013 17:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Am I the only person who believes if Topps or some other card company would just start making cards like they did in 1975, no flashy stuff, just basic cards, and sold them in corner stores at a very reasonable price, they could take off again?  Release them in series so that players traded or who were free agents appear on the correct team.  Put them in places where kids go and sell them for a very minimal profit.  Grow the kid base for a decade or two.  

This story was dead-on accurate and extremely sad to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the only person who believes if Topps or some other card company would just start making cards like they did in 1975, no flashy stuff, just basic cards, and sold them in corner stores at a very reasonable price, they could take off again?  Release them in series so that players traded or who were free agents appear on the correct team.  Put them in places where kids go and sell them for a very minimal profit.  Grow the kid base for a decade or two.  </p>
<p>This story was dead-on accurate and extremely sad to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Molly Turnes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Molly Turnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 17:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The freeze frame of the video is of DonRuss Diamond Kings. My husband was one of the artists of this series- Mark Turnes. Those may even be of his signature, but the film is too grainy. I feel that this story is true. My husband is an avid sports fan and has quite a collection of old cards, however, our 6 &amp; 8 year old sons only know about baseball cards because their father painted portraits for some!! We are partly to blame because we let them play video games and use the computer etc. But, I agree that  there were far too many produced for circulation. I think they need to streamline and focus on something that really captures people&#039;s attention- true works or art.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The freeze frame of the video is of DonRuss Diamond Kings. My husband was one of the artists of this series- Mark Turnes. Those may even be of his signature, but the film is too grainy. I feel that this story is true. My husband is an avid sports fan and has quite a collection of old cards, however, our 6 &amp; 8 year old sons only know about baseball cards because their father painted portraits for some!! We are partly to blame because we let them play video games and use the computer etc. But, I agree that  there were far too many produced for circulation. I think they need to streamline and focus on something that really captures people&#8217;s attention- true works or art.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Rogers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 17:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pre-1980 is very strong, especially high grade PSA/SGC cards. New stuff is dead and almost worthless. There is no need to go to shows as you can buy anything on Ebay. The show dealers still think they are selling diamonds and are for the most part inflexible and overvalue their inventory(still living in the greed era).

Most of the dealers that still work the shows are morons and trailer park trash.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pre-1980 is very strong, especially high grade PSA/SGC cards. New stuff is dead and almost worthless. There is no need to go to shows as you can buy anything on Ebay. The show dealers still think they are selling diamonds and are for the most part inflexible and overvalue their inventory(still living in the greed era).</p>
<p>Most of the dealers that still work the shows are morons and trailer park trash.</p>
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		<title>By: Seattle Slew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seattle Slew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 06:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Panini&#039;s response is a self-serving joke.  Anything that is manufactured with the INTENT of being a &quot;collectible&quot; is garbage....plain and simple.  This is toilet paper.

The fascination and growth of the card-collecting hobby came about from many people in the late 70&#039;s and early 80&#039;s revisiting their youth and buying cards that they had become familiar with in the 50&#039;s and 60&#039;s.  It snowballed to where it became more than &quot;collecting&quot; and was fueled by the same kind of opportunistic approaches that appeared for dot.com stocks in the late 90&#039;s....Greed, speculation and the &quot;greater fool&quot; theory.  There also were a variety of more visible &quot;gurus&quot; and publicatons promoting &quot;rookie cards&quot;, &quot;error cards&quot; and focusing on the financial rewards rather than the true collecting aspect.

The TV piece was pretty much on the money with respect to what it was tracking....namely the baseball card collecting &quot;craze&quot; of the 80&#039;s and early 90&#039;s...which is now DEAD.

Yes, there may be innovations and neat products, and if they are priced so that kids and young adults can buy them and enjoy them for what they are (souvenirs) rather than really believing that they will ever be worth more than they paid (99% will be worth MUCH less) then all is good.  However, when I hear the Panini toutman pushing 8000% increase in the value of a Jeremy Lin card....sounds like the pump and dump of a penny stock boiler shop.  Terrible to try and lure in people with that line.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Panini&#8217;s response is a self-serving joke.  Anything that is manufactured with the INTENT of being a &#8220;collectible&#8221; is garbage&#8230;.plain and simple.  This is toilet paper.</p>
<p>The fascination and growth of the card-collecting hobby came about from many people in the late 70&#8242;s and early 80&#8242;s revisiting their youth and buying cards that they had become familiar with in the 50&#8242;s and 60&#8242;s.  It snowballed to where it became more than &#8220;collecting&#8221; and was fueled by the same kind of opportunistic approaches that appeared for dot.com stocks in the late 90&#8242;s&#8230;.Greed, speculation and the &#8220;greater fool&#8221; theory.  There also were a variety of more visible &#8220;gurus&#8221; and publicatons promoting &#8220;rookie cards&#8221;, &#8220;error cards&#8221; and focusing on the financial rewards rather than the true collecting aspect.</p>
<p>The TV piece was pretty much on the money with respect to what it was tracking&#8230;.namely the baseball card collecting &#8220;craze&#8221; of the 80&#8242;s and early 90&#8242;s&#8230;which is now DEAD.</p>
<p>Yes, there may be innovations and neat products, and if they are priced so that kids and young adults can buy them and enjoy them for what they are (souvenirs) rather than really believing that they will ever be worth more than they paid (99% will be worth MUCH less) then all is good.  However, when I hear the Panini toutman pushing 8000% increase in the value of a Jeremy Lin card&#8230;.sounds like the pump and dump of a penny stock boiler shop.  Terrible to try and lure in people with that line.</p>
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		<title>By: al</title>
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		<dc:creator>al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excluse contracts did sports cards in!  I collected UD basball cards for 20 years until Topps was the only
game in town .  Topps cards are awful &amp; I refuse to buy them..  MLB killed my hobby.,thanks very much !!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excluse contracts did sports cards in!  I collected UD basball cards for 20 years until Topps was the only<br />
game in town .  Topps cards are awful &amp; I refuse to buy them..  MLB killed my hobby.,thanks very much !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Nolan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Nolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 10:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i am 14 and i have been collecting cards since the age of 5]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am 14 and i have been collecting cards since the age of 5</p>
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		<title>By: Corey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 00:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Would have to agree with this story. Back in the 90&#039;s I worked at the place where Fleer and Upper Deck and Skybox and Leaf were print and package.Work there for 4 years was a huge business it keep growing and growing it just got to big and to many cards flooded the market.To many sets and different sets. Then the lock out then the steroids.Baseball it self help ruin the business some what.I am in my 40&#039;s now and just started to collect again and there are many changes.The cards are just getting to prices for kids to buy. As the story points out video games and internet just doesn&#039;t help just hope today&#039;s youth can see that their is a cool hobby in collecting again and the people that I have met threw here and at show have great stories about there cards and just love the game and the hobby.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would have to agree with this story. Back in the 90&#8242;s I worked at the place where Fleer and Upper Deck and Skybox and Leaf were print and package.Work there for 4 years was a huge business it keep growing and growing it just got to big and to many cards flooded the market.To many sets and different sets. Then the lock out then the steroids.Baseball it self help ruin the business some what.I am in my 40&#8242;s now and just started to collect again and there are many changes.The cards are just getting to prices for kids to buy. As the story points out video games and internet just doesn&#8217;t help just hope today&#8217;s youth can see that their is a cool hobby in collecting again and the people that I have met threw here and at show have great stories about there cards and just love the game and the hobby.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua (jpleazme805)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua (jpleazme805)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 09:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cardboard collecting has died... it will continue to die for some... 

kids can&#039;t afford high dollar prices. They are more interested in games, girls, clothes, music, ect... Most people I know in today&#039;s society are not thrilled about cards.  None of my friends collect cards.  I collect, because it was my passion growing up in the 90&#039;s.  I stopped off &amp; on throughout the years.  I&#039;ve seen a whole city die... there were tons of baseball shops in Santa Barbara, Ca  in the early 90&#039;s.  Lots of competition. Lots of cardshows... today, there is on standing cardshop &amp; the owner has thrown in the towel &amp; is trying to sale, only problem, nobody wants to buy.. because it is hard to make money in a card shop.  

I have lived in San Diego now.  I&#039;ve seen a few card shops go under. When I did call them or walk into their store.. they have no wax.. or hardly anything new.  Even big shops, like Centre, in down town San Diego has limited wax &amp; millions of old cards that nobody wants... you can hardly walk down the only isle, because it is filled with boxes and/or collectibles... that nobody wants to pay for.

Most collectors that I&#039;ve talked to online or at my favorite LCS in Chula Vista, named PJ&#039;s Sports Cards, want to buy/trade for cards &amp; flip them for profit.  It is very hard for small collectors to make a profit.  

The turn around money is just not there, unless you open up tons of cases &amp; are a huge dealer or powerseller on ebay... Why do I spend $2,000 on a case of 6-10 boxes of cards, that hold a small amount of cards... is it to get a chance of owning an autograph card of my favorite player?  yes.  I buy wax for the thrill. I buy it, even though I know I should not spen my hard earned money on cardboard... at least not that much. My wife gets mad at me for wasting my money.  But I do it for the hobby, for the love of the game.  

I collect only basketball, because I can not afford everything.  Packs of cards have sky rocketed over the years.

Take a look at SPX basketball... packs were $4-8 in 2006-07 (before they dropped), then in 2008-09, they were $18-25 a pack.. that is a huge jump in price.  Why did they jump?  it is because Upper Deck was greedy... they wanted every penny they can squeeze out of us collectors... they throw in, that you get a GU or auto in every pack, that is why the price jumped... so what!  GU come a dime a dozen now.. they are as common as an insert in the early 90&#039;s, if not more.. yes, all those autos can be expensive, but that is part of the competition between manufactures of releasing good card products... everybody wants the autos!!

With NBA only having one manufacturer of NBA cards..... card collecting lost competition &amp; the NBA created a MONOPOLY.... it made a lot of collectors stop collecting or go back to collecting older cards.. looking for those rare inserts and/or autos.. 

Go to your local elementary, junior high, or high school... even colleges... ask those kids if they know what a baseball card is (any sport)... or ask how many of them collect cards?  I bet if you go to Santa Barbara, Ca... the answer you will get is NOBODY.. maybe a small handful of college students, but they are not super collectors...

How much does an average collector spend every month?  Where do they spend it?  More likely, they buy on ebay.  Tons of collectors today are overseas, for basketball, especially asia.  If you look back to the early 90&#039;s or before... overseas collecting was none, or very limited... now it&#039;s huge... I think that is what is saving the card industry today... all those overseas collectors with big money, spending like crazy!!  

Card manufacturers are doing very limited advertisement, except online, throughout the sports card forums... I don&#039;t think I have every seen an advertisement online... very little in sports magazines if any at all... go to a sports game, ya, you might get a free card or pack of cards... but those usually get given away or tossed for those non collectors... 

collecting will never totally die, but the type of new products being released will change over the years... card companies are trying to limit certain players autos, to make them harder to obtain.... just to try to keep value... or they will over produce them, like Kobe... you can get his auto for under a $100, because Panini releases a few hundred if not more in every product.

STICKER AUTOS KILLED PEOPLE WANTING TO BUY WAX... why spend tons of money to open up a pack or box of cards, when I can log onto ebay &amp; get the exact cards I want for a fraction of the price...  ??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cardboard collecting has died&#8230; it will continue to die for some&#8230; </p>
<p>kids can&#8217;t afford high dollar prices. They are more interested in games, girls, clothes, music, ect&#8230; Most people I know in today&#8217;s society are not thrilled about cards.  None of my friends collect cards.  I collect, because it was my passion growing up in the 90&#8242;s.  I stopped off &amp; on throughout the years.  I&#8217;ve seen a whole city die&#8230; there were tons of baseball shops in Santa Barbara, Ca  in the early 90&#8242;s.  Lots of competition. Lots of cardshows&#8230; today, there is on standing cardshop &amp; the owner has thrown in the towel &amp; is trying to sale, only problem, nobody wants to buy.. because it is hard to make money in a card shop.  </p>
<p>I have lived in San Diego now.  I&#8217;ve seen a few card shops go under. When I did call them or walk into their store.. they have no wax.. or hardly anything new.  Even big shops, like Centre, in down town San Diego has limited wax &amp; millions of old cards that nobody wants&#8230; you can hardly walk down the only isle, because it is filled with boxes and/or collectibles&#8230; that nobody wants to pay for.</p>
<p>Most collectors that I&#8217;ve talked to online or at my favorite LCS in Chula Vista, named PJ&#8217;s Sports Cards, want to buy/trade for cards &amp; flip them for profit.  It is very hard for small collectors to make a profit.  </p>
<p>The turn around money is just not there, unless you open up tons of cases &amp; are a huge dealer or powerseller on ebay&#8230; Why do I spend $2,000 on a case of 6-10 boxes of cards, that hold a small amount of cards&#8230; is it to get a chance of owning an autograph card of my favorite player?  yes.  I buy wax for the thrill. I buy it, even though I know I should not spen my hard earned money on cardboard&#8230; at least not that much. My wife gets mad at me for wasting my money.  But I do it for the hobby, for the love of the game.  </p>
<p>I collect only basketball, because I can not afford everything.  Packs of cards have sky rocketed over the years.</p>
<p>Take a look at SPX basketball&#8230; packs were $4-8 in 2006-07 (before they dropped), then in 2008-09, they were $18-25 a pack.. that is a huge jump in price.  Why did they jump?  it is because Upper Deck was greedy&#8230; they wanted every penny they can squeeze out of us collectors&#8230; they throw in, that you get a GU or auto in every pack, that is why the price jumped&#8230; so what!  GU come a dime a dozen now.. they are as common as an insert in the early 90&#8242;s, if not more.. yes, all those autos can be expensive, but that is part of the competition between manufactures of releasing good card products&#8230; everybody wants the autos!!</p>
<p>With NBA only having one manufacturer of NBA cards&#8230;.. card collecting lost competition &amp; the NBA created a MONOPOLY&#8230;. it made a lot of collectors stop collecting or go back to collecting older cards.. looking for those rare inserts and/or autos.. </p>
<p>Go to your local elementary, junior high, or high school&#8230; even colleges&#8230; ask those kids if they know what a baseball card is (any sport)&#8230; or ask how many of them collect cards?  I bet if you go to Santa Barbara, Ca&#8230; the answer you will get is NOBODY.. maybe a small handful of college students, but they are not super collectors&#8230;</p>
<p>How much does an average collector spend every month?  Where do they spend it?  More likely, they buy on ebay.  Tons of collectors today are overseas, for basketball, especially asia.  If you look back to the early 90&#8242;s or before&#8230; overseas collecting was none, or very limited&#8230; now it&#8217;s huge&#8230; I think that is what is saving the card industry today&#8230; all those overseas collectors with big money, spending like crazy!!  </p>
<p>Card manufacturers are doing very limited advertisement, except online, throughout the sports card forums&#8230; I don&#8217;t think I have every seen an advertisement online&#8230; very little in sports magazines if any at all&#8230; go to a sports game, ya, you might get a free card or pack of cards&#8230; but those usually get given away or tossed for those non collectors&#8230; </p>
<p>collecting will never totally die, but the type of new products being released will change over the years&#8230; card companies are trying to limit certain players autos, to make them harder to obtain&#8230;. just to try to keep value&#8230; or they will over produce them, like Kobe&#8230; you can get his auto for under a $100, because Panini releases a few hundred if not more in every product.</p>
<p>STICKER AUTOS KILLED PEOPLE WANTING TO BUY WAX&#8230; why spend tons of money to open up a pack or box of cards, when I can log onto ebay &amp; get the exact cards I want for a fraction of the price&#8230;  ??</p>
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		<title>By: lARRY dAVID</title>
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		<dc:creator>lARRY dAVID</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2012 01:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i recently bumped into the cardking www.youtube.com/bcatman to my surprise at a show in white plains, ny -he stated to me the hobby never dies or goes broke for vintage cards. all the negative news is always regarding or about, NEW overproduced -mass produced cards. Never the vintage cards as you can confirm with an auction is NJ last year during recession it grossed $10,000,000 in sales]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i recently bumped into the cardking <a href="http://www.youtube.com/bcatman" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/bcatman</a> to my surprise at a show in white plains, ny -he stated to me the hobby never dies or goes broke for vintage cards. all the negative news is always regarding or about, NEW overproduced -mass produced cards. Never the vintage cards as you can confirm with an auction is NJ last year during recession it grossed $10,000,000 in sales</p>
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