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Wow, that guy or girl got screwed. The edges of that card are terrible, I guess PSA really screwed the pooch on grading that one, and the buyer got douped.

That is a PSA Gem Mint? Even from the scans you can see rough edges!

I’m sorry, but looking at the edges, how in the world did that card grade Gem Mint. Those edges look like they were cut with a rusty pair of scissors. They would grade, at best, 8. Just goes to show how corrupt PSA is. They give failing grades to items there were signed in person at card shows but forgeries are widely accepted in the PSA hobby world. Disgusting. Why doesn’t Beckett take a good look at that card themselves and then grade it. I would not buy any card graded by PSA.

the rough sides are normal for opc card in those days

I think this is pretty funny. I mean, yeah, it’s a historic auction and all, but could there be another reason why this was posted…?

Anyone remember the grilling, and rightfully so, that Beckett’s BGS got for the Stephen Strasburg that sold for a ridiculous sum? How we could all tell that there was no way that centering was graded right, and everyone on this board, and many others, were FURIOUS at Beckett?

I just laughed when I first saw the scan. Yes, the above posts are beyond correct. Common flaw or not with this set (and yes, it is very common), those edges are just simply not PSA 10 worthy, regardless of whatever condition flaws are common, even if this card exhibits perfect areas (corners, surface, etc.) where this set is also flawed!

I just think it may be more than a happy accident that this was posted. Either way, we can all agree that this is NOT a PSA 10. I would have loved to see how this still got a 9.5 from BGS, as it apparently was the exact card graded previously. What were the subs? Did that card really get a 9 edges subgrade, or was it more like an 8 or 8.5 bolstered by some 10′s in other areas?

Just interesting…

From mod: The pricetag is why it was posted. Period.

In addition to the typical OPC rough edges from that era, the card is also slightly off-centre. I’ve seen many better condition Gretzky’s. This card is definitely NOT a GEM MT 10.

How did the card get a 10? Somebody must have a friend working for PSA!!!

Yes the edges of the card are a bit rough, but knocking PSA or saying that Beckettt should grade it instead are both misguided responses. As someone already commented, rough edges were normal for O-Pee-Chee cards of that era. The 10 grade reflects the fact that it’s in the best possible condition it could be in, given the production shortcommings of that time.

Oh and remember that Strasburg Superfractor 1/1 that was graded 9.5 by Beckett, despite an obvious centering issue? It caused the exact same reaction as this, but against Beckett instead of PSA. I would be a bit more critical of that grade, given the card was made in 2010 and not 1979. But again, it was a 1 of 1 so the grade is perhaps not as relevant anyways.

Psa grades,is done by many Different people. They did a bad grade on this card, if the edges are bad,then you get a bad grade,no matter what year it is. They traded cards on me, and droped a hair in case. And all they said they would put in another case. I could not proof they traded cards, but the hair was still there. Every grader has a different grade for the same card. Take a card send to be graded at Psa,when you get it back, take photo of it, then take it out of the case send it back. When you get it back take another photo, THEN take it out send it to BGS, repeat what you did with psa, Then send it to others Companys doing the same. See how many differents grades you get. It will cost a little money, BUT. you will see, no co. grades the same. If a card is mint,there are nothing wrong with it. What is gem mint? Something to get your money. It should go EX-Nr mint a 8, Near mint a 9, Mint a 10. nothing higher. If it has any little flaw give it a 9. A mint or gem mint a 10.The grading co. are trying to make us look like dummy’s. I think some graders are getting a kick back. Thats just my thinking, I may be wrong. The only graded cards i buy is mint cards, no matter what the number.

Saying that a card is a 10 based on the fact that it was a common “flaw” back in 1979 is a crazy arguement. Under this scenario, I could have most of collection from the late 60′s through the early 80′s graded gem 10 because it was a common flaw to have them off center. Would you grade a card with a bad wax stain a 10 because that was common throughout card history? A flaw is a flaw and under no circumstances should they receive 10′s.

ITS PRETTY CLEAR IT MUST BE WHO YOU KNOW IN THE GRADED CARDS BUSINESS. I HAVE SOME 50′S PARKHURST THAT SHOULD GRADE AN 11 BY LOOKING AT THIS ONE IT MUST BE WORTH THE EXTRA DOLLARS SPENT WHEN ARE COLLECTORS GOING TO SEE GRADED CARDS ARE NOT WHAT THEY GRADE THERE ARE WAY TOO MANY OVERGRADES FOR SUB PAR CARDS ON THE MARKET BUT IF YOU WANT TO THROW AWAY YOUR MONEY I COULD ALWAYS USE SOME I KNOW SOMEONE WHO RESUBMITTED AN ULTIMATE LEBRON JAMES AUTO 20 TIMES AND FINALLY GOT BUMPED TO A GEM GO FIGURE

Maybe PSA has an 11 on their grading scale!

It just reminds me that the companies are companies and need to make money.

This just goes to show that so-called Graded cards by any company is a waste of money. It’s all one person or a few peoples perception of the card, there is no real standard these companies follow. I have seen some cards grade better than they should have and cards grade worse than they should have, just because they tell you they follow the same guidelines every time doesn’t make it so, there is just too many dishonest people in every corporation and all they care about is your money not the quality of service they provide.

a bgs 9.5 just went up on ebay with a 35,000 buy it now or best offer

I understand OPC has edge issues and such thus given that there should NEVER be a 9.5 or 10 out there, ever!

That is THE WORST Centering and edges I have EVER seen on a PSA 10! Who graded that? Hellen Keller?

The buyer better check it out better. Is that the BGS 9.5 card?? I have seen hundreds of opened and re-sealed PSA cards out there. Did the owner get the original back as a 10 and switch it out for this item? Remember the Ebay seller that did that to PSA 10 1990 Fleer Emmitt Rc’s??

Got a PSA 6 1956 Jackie Robinson on ebay once. It had a crease! Tossed the card to my employee and the case popped right open!! Emailed the seller and he stated “No returns on Graded Cards”

BGS is the king… Takes like 1/2 hour and a chisel to open a holder and no resealing there!!

WOW. I can NOt believe it is a 10 or a BGS 9.5 for that matter.

Materials were made different in the past,,,,, papers,,, glues..,, ect..ect.. And they didn’t use gloss as much….so yes cards are fuzzy corners..

The card is definitely not Psa 10. Not even close

Uh… PSA does an incredible job grading cards. Especially vintage cards. Most people do not know that vintage cards are graded differently than modern cards. Why do you think there is a BGS and BVG? One is for modern cards and the other is for VINTAGE cards. Those edges might be horrible for any modern cards, but for that specific set and era… it’s actually in superb condition. This is the reason why PSA gave it a 10.

for those who think the rough edges make it worth less, are wrong the rough edges make the card genuine and real truly authentic rookie worth the price at auction.

I have one of these…but there’s a crease down the middle and bent on the corners…does it still have some value or not?

I GUESS I HAVE AN $80,000 CARD!

I have a rookie card that has never been graded and I think mine is just as good as shape

I have that same card, but the condition is not as good as in the picture of the. If someone wants to buy a card, I’m willing to sell it. E-mail queries. In Finland i see only two same.