[robags0817]

scollins8 Wrote:dude please let it go already i never said you were ripping me off i just feel i can get more cards for that rookie sp. Here on beckett we go by trade value and book value not ebay people being cheap. Just go spend your 100-200 dollars to try and complete the set in stead of trading commons for short prints.

it's over I just wanted to clarify and set the record straight. you started with the insults not me.

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I would like to share this picture with everyone who was involved in our discussion or debate whatever you would like to call it yesterday. These short print cards that were guaranteed to book for 25-30 bucks. I was being told I was a scammer because 4 of them were worth a pujols jersey card and pedroia jersey/auto card because the book value was the same, well to that I show you this. A mike Bowden card according to beckett real time "BOOK VALUE" is at a low of 2 bucks and a high of 5 bucks! while my pedroia auto comes in at 60 . now to me 4 cards that have a high of 5 bucks in "BOOK VALUE" would equal 20 bucks in book value trading.(the snider is a high of 12 and the other 2 were high of 8 and 5 for a total book value of 30 dollars) than why would someone say I am a scammer for not aggreeing to trade them a pedroia auto card( book value of 60) and a pujols jersey (BV OF 15)card because I didnt want to give them "fair value" for their short print cards that were guaranteed to book at 25-30 bucks A PIECE!. I stated on here in front of everyone that if I was wrong I would apologize in front of everyone, but it turns out that I wasn't as dumb as someone said I was and I turned out to be correct. just thought I'd share that. lol

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This is the card that I was a scammer for not wanting to trade because I did't want to give fair value and I was pulling the "my cards are better than yours" trick.again I hate to sound childish and I know some will say this is being childish, but I was insulted numerous times for no reason at all, other than me saying I dont think 4 short printed cards that are selling on ebay for between 5-10 bucks tops should warrant me trading a pujols jersey card and a pedoria auto card. I also stated that if I was wrong and the value was the same that I would apologize for unknowingly being a "scammer" and trying to "rip people off on here".

[robags0817]

"The Pujols was only $15 and probably half of what the Snider alone will book for. "


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I would love to hear that apology now ! especially after you swore up and down I had no idea what I was talking about lol

[robags0817]

'"No where did I say that I thought the Bowden would be $25." no you never said that. what you did say is that your 4 cards would total in value to $70-$75 dollars. even if your snider booked like you said it would(which it didn't) that total will still only be 43 dollars and still not enough to even cover my pedroia auto card which books for $60. and as for the bowden card your exact words were and I quote...............................................................
"If you think that "no name rookies" like Travis Snider, MICHAEL BOWDEN, etc. are going to book for a few bucks then you have much to learn."

In my estimation $5.00 for a Bowden card would qualify as a few bucks.

"No kidding...he "claims" that the SP RC's are selling on eBay for $5-$10, but I've been watching for them and I haven't seen anything but the perforated/blue/gold parallels listed. He's trying to play the old my cards are better than yours game and is expecting you to give up the SP RC's for nothing. "

again I will ask you regarding this post right here above when you look at the trade now who was the one devaluing the cards. You wanted to go by BOOK VALUE so according to BOOK VALUE if we traded that would have meant I was trading you $75.00 in BV(my cards) for $30.00 in book value(your cards). Please just admit your wrong and apologize like I said I would if I turned out to be wrong. This is not by any means an argument by the way don't get upset, I just wanted to show you that sometimes hurling insults over difference of opinion is not the best path to take and I didn't feel it was fair for you to say the things you were saying considering the facts of the situation. Go back and read it over. I said that if I was wrong I would be a man and apologize for telling you your cards weren't worth $75 dollars and I would apologize for unknowingly trying to "scam you" because those were not my intentions. my intentions were to " simply make a "fair trade" but somehow I din't think 75 for 30 was "fair" and for that you insulted me and said I was ripping people off lol. you have been proven wrong so just be a man and admit you made a mistake.

[robags0817]

"The Pujols was only $15 and probably half of what the Snider alone will book for. "Snider booked for 12 dollars!
Snider- high BV-$12.00
Fowler-high BV-$5.00
Bowden-high BV-$5.00
Kawakami-high BV-$8.00

My pujols booked for $15.00 and the pedroia for $60.00. please explain to me how this would be a fair trade? explain to me how me saying that a card selling on ebay for 5-10 bucks is def not going to book for 25-30 bucks is me trying to devalue your card and try to "scam you"?

"No kidding...he "claims" that the SP RC's are selling on eBay for $5-$10, but I've been watching for them and I haven't seen anything but the perforated/blue/gold parallels listed. He's trying to play the old my cards are better than yours game and is expecting you to give up the SP RC's for nothing. "
"If you think that "no name rookies" like Travis Snider, Michael Bowden, etc. are going to book for a few bucks then you have much to learn."
"Sell value is not book value dude. Just because you see a card selling for $10 doesn't mean that is the trade value. More than likely that card is going to book for $25-$30. Some people just don't understand....this must be another one of Nelly's aliases. "

the bottom line is you stated that those 4 cards would net a total book value of $70-$75 dollars
and that is why you asked me for a $15.00 pujols and a $60.00 pedroia auto. I explained to you that was definately not going to be the case and you started insulting me telling me I didn't know what I was talkin about. Now that I have been proven right and you have been proven wrong be a man about it an apologize for all of your insults and we can move on and hopefully not have any hard feelings and maybe even make a trade in the future. Like I said this is baseball cards...it's a hobby done for fun don't get mad, but after all of your comments about my intelligence and lack of knowledge I think it is only fair that you admit you were wrong and admit that I wasn't trying to scam anyone but only trying to establish a fair trade.