[winningsforthebirds]

branesergen= that is exactly what i'm talking about.

gregscardshop= i'm just talking straight trades....not breaking a trade down. i think if you are trading 2 for 1 or anymore for 1 card you should trade a little in the guy who has the SINGLE card's favor, since you are breaking him down into other cards....as we all know, its easier to sell or trade ONE card that's $100 then it would be to sell or trade 10 cards that = $100

[winningsforthebirds]

oh and the reason you trade instead of buying for 99 cents is because you can't find every exact card you want. and, if you have cards that are worth $25 or less or so, its a waste of time to list mine for 7 days, sell it for 99 cents, and then bid on the card i want, deal with shipping and all that when i can just do one trade and maybe bang out 4 or 5 of them for other $25 cards i want.

thats annoying too. when you have a $30 auto card someone wants, and then you pick out a $30 auto card, and then they counter back with like a $10 card a $5 card and a $15 card. its like what? you'd have to be NUTS to break down your cards value like that. its basically crushing your collection because the demand for your $30 card is much greater than it is for a bunch of inserts and BS

[branesergen]

gregscardshop Wrote:why would you want to trade with anyone for those cards if they are so cheap for you to buy?

Because I have cards that you want and you have cards that I want and why spend money twice when you have something already paid for. I have a Felix Jones card you want, you have a Ricky Williams card I want why would you not trade just because the Ricky is a Jersey when its selling on ebay for 99 cents with no bids but yet the Felix is selling on ebay for $2.25 with 3 bids? (Just using that as an example)

[winningsforthebirds]

gregs=

just got your offer, or showing of cards you like. sent you back and offer.

my $12 joe thiesmann jersey for your $12 brad banks auto.

lets put my theory to the test

[gregscardshop]

sorry guys comp was acting weird last night i really wanted to keep this going because i like this subject.

Smoke- i have no problem with the deal technically autos hold value more than jersey. but if im not crazy about the card bv for bv is fine. i always like to try and get just a little more in these kind of trades just to try and make up the 2 dollars for shipping. but thats what i prefer.

bran- to be honest with you i'd love to trade you my ricky's im not a ricky collector and they are just sitting on my shelf or a box or somewhere, lol. i wasnt crazy about your deal because they were a bunch of 2 and 4 dollar cards if i remember, i would have traded in a secon if you had even a 15 dollar felix jones card. but for me to break down two 8 dollar ricky jersey cards for low end base rookies i just couldnt pull the trigger. if you would have gone up to 20 in the base rookies that would have made it too hard for me to pass up even though they are 2-4 dollar cards. there was even an 8 dollar rookie that i was looking at i think knowshon or wells and you took it off to give me the lower ones.

I am on here to get cards that i want and hopfully in the process add to my pc. I have no problems trading bv for bv, if someone offers me more than bv its a lock that you will get what your asking for, including cards i have for pc, maybe not just a dollar over bv but you guys know what i am saying.

Also when i said if you can get your cards for .99 cents then why trade you guys explained what i was trying to say, why spend money twice? why put the time and hassle into that? thats true, then why bring it up? who cares what the card is selling for on feebay? if you would rather do that then why trade with me? i am actually insulted when someone tells me that. I look at this like a business transaction, i have this i want this, i will make deals i'll compromise but for me to be told that my card is crap and should be happy that someone is offering me something that does nothing to make me want to work with a trade. it just puts me down. there are alot of people that i have traded with that have not had much and i try to work things out to be helpful. i have also had people that have great collections try to low ball me. i think fair is fair, if you dont want to trade a certain card to me then let me know. if you want more than bv for what your giving me let me know up front so i can decide whether to continue or save my time. thats my opinon.

[all day baby]

gregscardshop Wrote:who cares what the card is selling for on feebay? if you would rather do that then why trade with me? i am actually insulted when someone tells me that.

You SHOULD be insulted if they expect you to trade book value for sales value.

[gregscardshop]

thanks for the back up ADB. I know there are a few collectors on here that just have monster collections. i also know there are a few collectors that do this as a business either own shops, sell on feebay or so on and so on. but there are a few people that do it just to collect. there are too many of us on here to all follow the same rules in trading, because its our property (card) we will do with it what we please. if you want to trade 2 for 1 you can do it, if you want to rip them up you can do that too. i think people get a little too hung up with sell value. to be honest i have been loading cards i havent seen in a while and trade them easily some cards that i think no one will want they take, but i think we just need to be respectful of each trader. dont belittle them or their cards. like they say you can get a lot more bees with honey than with vinager, at least thats how im remembering it, lol. but this is only my opinion.

[jasonat]

how about this.....people holding cards for ransom.  aka i collect donnie avery, dustin keller and roddy white.  all of whom have low bv's but a lot of potential.  i have only traded for one roddy white card by BV. people think that beacuse i collect him, ill trade a matt ryan auto for one of my guys.  i understand wanting to keep a card if its value will go up, but when you tell me that you have it and that bv is 40, dont turn around and ask for an 80 card saying that i will understand. b/s.  and lately it seems like people are getting worse about it as the season draws near. it sux and makes it near impossible to trade. if i have what you want and you have something i want, premiums shouldnt count for anything.

[gregscardshop]

i understand where your coming from, but i guess that comes with the territory of being a super collector, its messed up that it happens, like i said i've had some great experience with super collectors i've had a couple not so great ones, but i think its the idea that you could probably push it a little more because you know they want the card you have. i dont think its right, but then again what can we do about the people that try to do that, just make a mental list and know who you do not want to trade with. dont worry buddy, what comes around goes around. thats why im kind of glad im not a supercollector because i can say no to any card. some guys just can't find a certain card and get taken to the cleaners. i know if i come across anything i'd let you have it for bv or maybe if you wanted to be nice a couple bv dollars over, lol. but i think its the people that are trying to capitalize. sometimes people ask me for cards that i have no desire for and i cant find the accept button fast enough.

[winningsforthebirds]

yeah but what you just said is wrong. like in the example of our trade. the thiesmann jersey will get TONS more looks in a display or in your collection than a brad banks will.

the sellers have already spoken, a brad banks auto shouldn't be worth much at all, but since its an auto, its still worth $12.

you are kidding me if you think you will find anyone out there who wants a brad banks more than i do....i collect belle glade high schoolers and he is one.

i mean are there that many people that want OLD IOWA HAWKEYES over hof QB's?

no, but there is one, and he is ME