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1991 Topps Variations
06-30-2008, 04:47 PM
Post: #1
1991 Topps Variations
I know this some of this information probably resides in the Error and Variations thread, but I don't want to weed through 20 pages of that thread. I am trying to come up with a somewhat definitive list of variations in the 1991 Topps Baseball set. Here is the list that I have so far:

9 Darrin Fletcher - (a) no sheet designation (b) sheet designation (F* I believe)
49 Pat Borders - (a) 40 steals in Kinston 1986 (b) 0 Steal in Kinston 1986
80 Fernando Valenzuela - (a) 104 ER in '90 Tied League Lead (b) Led League
97 Brady Anderson - (a) â??Sept 2 RBI and 3 Hitsâ? (b) â??Set, 3 RBI and 14 Hits
100 Don Mattingly - (a) 10 Hits in 1990 (b) 101 hist in 1990
131 Checklist 1 - (a) #727 Phil Bradley (b) #727 Phil Bradley
155 Dwight Evans - (a) Lead league w/162 games in 1982 (b) tied for lead w/162 Games in 1982
167 Randy Tomlin - (a) Harriburg (b) Harrisburg
236 Frank Tanana - (a) Tied for lead w/269 Kâ??s on 1975 (b) Lead League w/269 Kâ??s in 1975
270 Mark McGwire - (a) 1987 Slug % 618 (b) 1987 Slug % .618
279 Jose Gonzalez - (a) Photo Billy Bean (b) correct photo
306 Lonnie Smith - (a) 136 Games in 1990 9b) 135 Games in 1990
324 Ron Kittle - (a) set another standard (b) tied another standard
337 Keith Comstock - (a) Cubs logo on front (b) mariners logo on front
366 Checklist 3 - (a) #19 Carl Nichols (b) #119 Carl Nichols
378 Wilson Alvarez - (a) 1989 & 1990 minor league stats deleted (b) stats included
461 Robin Ventura - (a) grey inner border (b) red inner border
454 Kevin Appier - (a) 1990 Omaha Stats deleted (b) stats included
526 Moises Alou - (a) 37 runs in 2 games for 1990 Pirates (b) 0 Runs in 2 games
527 Checklist 4 - (a) #105 Keith Miller #719 Kevin McReyolds (b) #105 Kevin McReyolds #719 Keith Miller
588 Mark Whiten - (a)Hand inside border (b)hand outside border
593 Mike Walker - (a) 1990 Canton Stats deleted (b) Stats included
599 Greg Myers - (a) 1990 Syracuse stats deleted (b) Stats included
603 Wes Chamberlain - (a) Photo Louie Meadows (b) correct photo
656 Checklist 5 - (a) 348 Palacios, 381 Lind, 537 Lavalliere (b) 438 Palacios 537 Lind 665 Lavalliere © 433 Palacios
674 Kevin Gross - (a) 1988 Tied for lead (b) 1988 Lead league
687 John Cerutti - (a) 4.46 ERA in 1990 (b) 4.76 ERA in 1990
692 Efrain Valdez - (a) Born 6/11/66 (b) Born 7/11/66
706 Brad Arnsberg - (a) 68.2 IP in 1990 (b) 62.2 IP in 1990
780 Randy Myers - (a) 15 Career losses (b) 19 Career losses
All of the cards with an A* and B* print designation have either a bold logo or a regular logo.

I believe that these are all generally accepted by the hobby as variations. There are a couple of others that I have heard mentioned but I am not sure what they are: Chris Hoiles, Scott Coolbaugh and Robin Ventura. I have also heard about (I believe) that the C* sheet comes with the red box where the player's name is on the back in either a bold or regular version (the topps logo is not bold). I have compared some of my cards and it does seem that this is similar to the bold logo version for the A and B sheets. Anyone have any thoughts on whether or not this is a printing error or a legitmate variation.

I am going to search EBAY to see if there are any others posted there - I know there are a number of cards with an E*F* sheet designation and I believe that some of them were corrected, but I only have one version of them.

If you have any additional variations to add to this list, please let me know and if possible, post a scan. For the purposes of this exercise, I am not considering wrong back/fronts as variations, but rather printing mistakes.

Thanks.
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06-30-2008, 05:05 PM
Post: #2
1991 Topps Variations
2008 Standard Catalog: No 461a (Grey inner photo frame) and 461b (Red inner photo frame) Robin Ventura . I always thought it more brown than grey, but anyways there is a difference.
here's a scan
[Image: 446d45b4.jpg]
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06-30-2008, 05:40 PM
Post: #3
1991 Topps Variations
I've heard of some green ink variations where there is some green ink smudge marks on many of the cards...don't know much else about that though. I picked a McGwire version up. Not sure if it is legit though
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06-30-2008, 10:23 PM
Post: #4
1991 Topps Variations
I think EVERY card in the set has a 40 year anniversary variation.

On the back of each card is a "ghosted" 40 ann. logo with most being very faint pink.
But you can also find dark RED logos which arent "ghosted"
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06-30-2008, 10:41 PM
Post: #5
1991 Topps Variations
011873 Wrote:I think EVERY card in the set has a 40 year anniversary variation.

On the back of each card is a "ghosted" 40 ann. logo with most being very faint pink.
But you can also find dark RED logos which arent "ghosted"

I haven't seen any dark red logo that weren't from the A or B sheets. If you have any that are from the other sheets, I would definitely be interested in seeing them.

Onion - do you have a scan of the green ink cards. I think they might just be a printing error, but if I know what to look for, I can check out my cards.

Soxfan - thanks for the scan, that is extremely helpful.

I did notice from the last box that I broke (which seems to contain the error version of most of the cards) that the cards printed from the D sheet are on a different color card stock than the others (it is dark grey rather than light grey). Does anyone know anything about this?
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07-01-2008, 12:07 PM
Post: #6
1991 Topps Variations
I don't have a scan, but according to the catalog the Chris Hoiles variation 42a (white inner photo frame) and 42b (grey inner border frame) seems to be of the same nature as the Ventura variation. Also I seem to remember there was some talk of the logo on the back being missing altogether on some cards, but cannot verify that. Perhaps someone on here knows.
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07-01-2008, 01:00 PM
Post: #7
1991 Topps Variations
I'll try to get you a scan of the green smudge later this evening. Here are the ghost/bold varations. As you can see for McGwire there are 4 variations of this card (bold correct, bold error, ghost correct, ghost error) then possibly a 5th with this green smudge error I'll try to scan later. I'm pretty sure the above post was correct that this exists for every card:

1) Bold correct
2) Bold error
3) Ghost correct
4) Ghost error

[Image: w_1991--topps--bold.jpg]
[Image: w_1991--topps--bold--618.jpg]
[Image: w_1991--topps--ghost.jpg]
[Image: w_1991--topps--ghost--618.jpg]
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07-01-2008, 01:22 PM
Post: #8
1991 Topps Variations
5A Cal Ripken Orioles [F*] listed before copyright
5B Cal Ripken Orioles [E* F*] listed before copyright
9A Darrin Fletcher Phillies [F*] listed before copyright
9B Darrin Fletcher Phillies [E* F*] missing before copyright
13A Mariano Duncan Reds [A*] listed before copyright
13B Mariano Duncan Reds [A* B*] listed before copyright
42A Chris Hoiles Orioles white inner photo frame
42B Chris Hoiles Orioles gray inner photo frame
49A Pat Borders Blue Jays 1986 Kingston SB listed as 0
49B Pat Borders Blue Jays 1986 Kingston SB listed as 40
54A Gary Mielke Rangers [A*] listed before copyright
54B Gary Mielke Rangers [A* B*] listed before copyright
63A Milt Thompson Cardinals [A*] listed before copyright
63B Milt Thompson Cardinals [A* B*] listed before copyright
72A Junior Ortiz Twins [A*] listed before copyright
72B Junior Ortiz Twins [A* B*] listed before copyright
76A Jerry Browne Indians [A*] listed before copyright
76B Jerry Browne Indians [A* B*] listed before copyright
80A Fernando Valenzuela Dodgers no diamond after 104 ER in 1990
80B Fernando Valenzuela Dodgers diamond after 104 ER in 1990
83A Daryl Boston Mets [A*] listed before copyright
83B Daryl Boston Mets [A* B*] listed before copyright
87A Tracy Jones [F*] listed before copyright
87B Tracy Jones [E* F*] listed before copyright
97A Brady Anderson Orioles 3H, 2RBI in Sept. scoreboard
97B Brady Anderson Orioles 14H, 3RBI in Sept. scoreboard
100A Don Mattingly Yankees 10 hits in 1990
100B Don Mattingly Yankees 101 hits in 1990
120A Joe Carter Padres [A*] listed before copyright
120B Joe Carter Padres [A* B*] listed before copyright
123A Greg A. Harris Red Sox [A*] listed before copyright
123B Greg A. Harris Red Sox [A* B*] listed before copyright
131A Checklist Phil Bradley is #727
131B Checklist Phil Bradley is #717
153A Bryan Harvey Angels [A*] listed before copyright
153B Bryan Harvey Angels [A* B*] listed before copyright
155A Dwight Evans Red Sox 1982 162 G has diamond on back
155B Dwight Evans Red Sox 1982 162 G missing diamond on back, [A*] listed before copyright
155C Dwight Evans Red Sox 1982 162 G missing diamond on back, [A* B*] listed before copyright
167A Randy Tomlin Pirates Harriburg in 1989-90
167B Randy Tomlin Pirates Harrisburg in 1989-90
170A Carlton Fisk White Sox [A*] listed before copyright
170B Carlton Fisk White Sox [A* B*] listed before copyright
177A Reggie Harris Athletics [A*] listed before copyright
177B Reggie Harris Athletics [A* B*] listed before copyright
178A Dave Valle [A*] listed before copyright
178B Dave Valle [A*B*] listed before copyright
190A Matt Williams Giants [A*] listed before copyright
190B Matt Williams Giants [A* B*] listed before copyright
213A Frank Wills Blue Jays [A*] listed before copyright
213B Frank Wills Blue Jays [A* B*] listed before copyright
223A Allan Anderson Twins [A*] listed before copyright
223B Allan Anderson Twins [A* B*] listed before copyright
233A Al Leiter Blue Jays [F*] listed before coypright
233B Al Leiter Blue Jays [E* F*] listed before coypright
236A Frank Tanana Tigers no diamond after 269 SO 1975
236B Frank Tanana Tigers diamond after 269 SO 1975
237A Rick Cerone Yankees [A*] listed before coypright
237B Rick Cerone Yankees [A*B*] listed before coypright
248A Tom Gordon Athletics [A*] listed before copyright
248B Tom Gordon Athletics [A* B*] listed before copyright
250A Dennis Eckersley Athletics [A*] listed before copyright
250B Dennis Eckersley Athletics [A* B*] listed before copyright
265A Mark Gubicza Athletics [A*] listed before copyright
265B Mark Gubicza Athletics [A* B*] listed before copyright
270A Mark McGwire Athletics 1987 SLG 618
270B Mark McGwire Athletics 1987 SLG .618, [A*] listed before copyright
270C Mark McGwire Athletics 1987 SLG .618, [A* B*] listed before copyright
272A Jeff King Pirates [A*] listed before copyright
272B Jeff King Pirates [A*B*] listed before coypright
279A Jose Gonzalez Dodgers Billy Bean photo, left handed batter
279B Jose Gonzalez Dodgers correct photo, right handed batter
284A Bill Spiers Braves [A*] listed before copyright
284B Bill Spiers Braves [A* B*] listed before copyright
290A Steve Sax Yankees [A*] listed before copyright
290B Steve Sax Yankees [A* B*] listed before copyright
297A Manny Lee Blue Jays [A*] listed before copyright
297B Manny Lee Blue Jays [A*B*] listed before copyright
306A Lonnie Smith Braves 136 G 1990
306B Lonnie Smith Braves 135 G 1990
312A Charlie Hayes Phillies [A*] listed before copyright
312B Charlie Hayes Phillies [A* B*] listed before copyright
314A Gary Pettis Rangers [A*] listed before copyright
314B Gary Pettis Rangers [A* B*] listed before copyright
324A Ron Kittle Orioles [6 Home Runs] and [Set anotherâ?¦]
324B Ron Kittle Orioles [7 Home Runs] and [Tied anotherâ?¦]
337A Keith Comstock Mariners logo, no break in border
337B Keith Comstock Cubs logo
337C Keith Comstock Mariners logo, break in upper border (NPD)
345A Len Dykstra Phillies [A*] listed before copyright
345B Len Dykstra Phillies [A* B*] listed before copyright
346A Jesse Orosco Indians black line on front cuts off bottom of position and name (NPD)
346B Jesse Orosco Indians position and name on front fully visible on front
366A Checklist Carl Nichols #19
366B Checklist Carl Nichols #119
378A Wilson Alvarez White Sox no 1989 Port Charlotte stats
378B Wilson Alvarez White Sox 1989 Port Charlotte stats listed
382A Mackey Sasser Mets [A*] listed before copyright
382B Mackey Sasser Mets [A* B*] listed before copyright
384A Gerald Perry Athletics [A*] listed before copyright
384B Gerald Perry Athletics [A* B*] listed before copyright
401B Barry Bonds Pirates [National League] letters on front fully visible
416A Randy Milligan Orioles gray border (NPD)
416B Randy Milligan Orioles black border
422A Rick Reuschel Giants [A*] listed before copyright
422B Rick Reuschel Giants [A* B*] listed before copyright
452A Bill Schroeder Angels [A*] listed before copyright
452B Bill Schroeder Angels [A*B*] listed before copyright
454A Kevin Appier Athletics 1990 Omaha stats listed
454B Kevin Appier Athletics no 1990 Omaha stats, [A*] listed before copyright
454C Kevin Appier Athletics no 1990 Omaha stats, [A* B*] listed before copyright
459A Tom Trebelhorn Braves [A*] listed before copyright
459B Tom Trebelhorn Braves [B*] listed before copyright
461A Robin Ventura White Sox gray inner frame at left
461B Robin Ventura White Sox red inner frame at left
461C Robin Ventura White Sox purple inner frame at left
463A Dwight Smith Cubs [A*] listed before copyright
463B Dwight Smith Cubs [A* B*] listed before copyright
475A Teddy Higuera Braves [A*] listed before copyright
475B Teddy Higuera Braves [A* B*] listed before copyright
478A Kurt Stillwell Athletics [A*] listed before copyright
478B Kurt Stillwell Athletics [A* B*] listed before copyright
480A Dave Magadan Mets [A*] listed before copyright
480B Dave Magadan Mets [A* B*] listed before copyright
481A Eddie Whitson Padres [A*] listed before copyright
481B Eddie Whitson Padres [A*B*] listed before copyright
509A Glenallen Hill Blue Jays [A*] listed before copyright
509B Glenallen Hill Blue Jays [A* B*] listed before copyright
526A Moises Alou Expos 37 R 1990 Pirates
526B Moises Alou Expos 0 R 1990 Pirates
527A Checklist Kevin McReynolds #719
527B Checklist Kevin McReynolds #105
532A Kirk McCaskill Angels [A*] listed before copyright
532B Kirk McCaskill Angels [A* B*] listed before copyright
538A Bip Roberts Padres [A*] listed before copyright
538B Bip Roberts Padres [A* B*] listed before copyright
584A Kevin Brown Rangers [A*] listed before copyright
584B Kevin Brown Rangers [A* B*] listed before copyright
588A Mark Whiten Blue Jays hand inside left border
588B Mark Whiten Blue Jays hand over left border
593A Mike Walker Indians no 1990 Canton-Akron stats
593B Mike Walker Indians 1990 Canton-Akron stats listed
599A Greg Myers Blue Jays 1990 Syracuse stats missing
599B Greg Myers Blue Jays 1990 Syracuse stats listed
603A Wes Chamberlain Phillies Louie Meadow photo, with bat
603B Wes Chamberlain Phillies correct photo, no bat
610A Andres Galarraga Expos [A*] listed before copyright
610B Andres Galarraga Expos [A* B*] listed before copyright
622A Jack Daugherty Rangers [A*] listed before copyright
622B Jack Daugherty Rangers [A* B*] listed before copyright
642A Hal Morris Reds [A*] listed before copyright
642B Hal Morris Reds [A* B*] listed before copyright
644A Chuck Crim Braves [A*] listed before copyright
644B Chuck Crim Braves [A*B*] listed before copyright
650A Jack Clark Padres [A*] listed before copyright
650B Jack Clark Padres [A* B*] listed before copyright
656A Checklist Palacios #348
656B Checklist Palacios #433
656C Checklist Palacios #438
664A John Farrell Indians [A*] listed before copyright
664B John Farrell Indians [A* B*] listed before copyright
667A Kent Anderson Angels [A*] listed before copyright
667B Kent Anderson Angels [A* B*] listed before copyright
674A Kevin Gross Expos no diamond after 89 BB 1988
674B Kevin Gross Expos diamond after 89 BB 1988
676A Scott Chiamparino Rangers [F*] listed before copyright
676B Scott Chiamparino Rangers [E*F*] listed before copyright
677A Bill Ripken Orioles [A*] listed before copyright
677B Bill Ripken Orioles [A*B*] listed before copyright
687A John Cerutti Blue Jays 4.46 ERA 1990
687B John Cerutti Blue Jays 4.76 ERA 1990
692A Efrain Valdez Indians no text below stats
692B Efrain Valdez Indians has text below stats
696A Steve Olin Indians [F*] listed before copyright
696B Steve Olin Indians [E* F*] listed before copyright
706A Brad Arnsberg Rangers 1990 IP Stat listed as 62.2 innings
706B Brad Arnsberg Rangers 1990 IP Stat listed as 68.2 innings
716A Bob Geren Yankees [A*] listed before copyright
716B Bob Geren Yankees [A*B*] listed before copyright
724A David Segui Orioles partial green inner border
724B David Segui Orioles full black inner border
756A Jeff Huson Rangers [A*] listed before copyright
756B Jeff Huson Rangers [A* B*] listed before copyright
780A Randy Myers Reds career losses 15
780B Randy Myers Reds career losses 19
781A Darryl Hamilton Braves [A*] listed before copyright
781B Darryl Hamilton Braves [A*B*] listed before copyright
783A Joel Skinner Indians [A*] listed before copyright
783B Joel Skinner Indians [A* B*] listed before copyright
785A Scott Fletcher White Sox [A*] listed before copyright
785B Scott Fletcher White Sox [A* B*] listed before copyright
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07-01-2008, 01:38 PM
Post: #9
1991 Topps Variations
1989 Fleer Bill Ripken Collector Wrote:270A Mark McGwire Athletics 1987 SLG 618
270B Mark McGwire Athletics 1987 SLG .618, [A*] listed before copyright
270C Mark McGwire Athletics 1987 SLG .618, [A* B*] listed before copyright

Are you sure they have B* printed on the copyright? I have never seen one...
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07-01-2008, 02:01 PM
Post: #10
1991 Topps Variations
onionring9 Wrote:
1989 Fleer Bill Ripken Collector Wrote:270A Mark McGwire Athletics 1987 SLG 618
270B Mark McGwire Athletics 1987 SLG .618, [A*] listed before copyright
270C Mark McGwire Athletics 1987 SLG .618, [A* B*] listed before copyright

Are you sure they have B* printed on the copyright? I have never seen one...

From the source it was a confirmed version. They have it listed as easy to find. I'll PM you the contact info and maybe someone there can provide a pic or extra copy.
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