[uncookedsushi]

Personally, I dont think that they should be memorabilia cards, and neither should be manufactured patches and non-game worn memorabilia cards.  Though the fronts were printed with ink made out of tires, the user of those tires is unspecified.  That Earnhardt card may be printed with Kyle Bucsh or Tony Stewart or who knows how many combonations of differnt tires.  None of us (and probably niether does press pass) knows whose tires are on that card.  It is like having a Mantle 2 swatch jersey card with a red and a blue swatch in it. I mean who knows who's jerseys those are.  I do belive there should be some notificaton of the special ink in the listings though, such as:
Press Pass' Wheels American Thunder Thunder Road (printed w/ gu materials)

[allabtsprt]

Insert card? Yes.  Gimmick card?  Yes.  Memorabilia card?  No.  They destroyed the memorabilia when they made the ink.  At least with the piece of rubber, you have a somewhat good idea of where the rubber came from.  Who knows if that ink is really from that tire?  Aren"t the only cards with ink on them considered autograph cards?  Therefore, could this card be considered an autograph card?

Would you do this with the rubber from one of Jordan's shoes?  I don't think so!  This "should" be a pretty shut and dried case.  If you can look at a card(even a novice) and be able to determine with your own two eyes that the card contains an OBVIOUS piece of event used material, then it's a memorabilia card.  If you have to read the back of the card or a press release to find out that the ink used on the card came from that memorabilia, then it's simply another creative insert in the long, long line of creative inserts.  Nothing more, nothing less.

[jeffv96masters]

  The item does not seem to have any characteristic that sticks out that makes anyone even recognize its a "memento" from anything ,,,, I am betting the average person would NEVER have even thought remotely the items "makeup" consisted of race used tire "byproduct"-- the only clue we even have is someone decided to call attention to the "chemical" makeup of the item by applying a byproduct of the original item into the chemical makeup of the current item,,,,,

Without some "LABEL" saying it was "race used" byproduct used to create a new piece of cardboard design ---  there is no way anyone would guess the "ink's" history or background,,,,,

INSERT CARD,,,,, at least to this collector,,,,,

My opinion only--
Jeff

[14smoke14]

i wouldnt consider it memorabilia although it is race used from what i gathered after a callto press pass before to get one of these cards replaced they dont actually recycle a tire they actually go around after the races and sweep up the marbles as we call them around the outside and inside walls of the track and thats what they make it out of strange but true

[thelegendjerryrice]

If people are considering these manufactured cards as memorabilia  then why aint this. They use the tire ? i mean a fake made jersey is but because they used it as ink it isnt ?

Exhibit A:

[gottabe]

Let's just call them "Green Cards" Isn't that the latest politically correct fad. At one time most inks are a derivitave of organic combinations. Rubber is also a compound with organic roots.
The fact they they are recycling these items basically would make AL Gore  Very Very Proud.
Since those versions don't really inspire people (I didn't like them) can we just use those to pay our Carbon offset's ...

 No I wouldn't call it a memorabilia card either. 

[uniquedesigns]

TheLegendJerryRice Wrote:If people are considering these manufactured cards as memorabilia  then why aint this. They use the tire ? i mean a fake made jersey is but because they used it as ink it isnt ?

Exhibit A:

I started the Football thread about these Made-Up Embroidered Patches being Pretty Much WorthLess.
You should add that Non-GU'd card to my FB thread? That Auto can't Even make that patch GU'd.
That said though, it has been pointed out that these Patches are Not Described as GU by the manufacturers.
If Press Pass IS describing (printed on these cards) that they should be considered Memorabilia, then That's Way Too Much of a Stretch. ARE they printing on them that they are memorabilia???
What a collector wants to believe is his own fault. The market will tell you what's What.
Golfers are Not Associated with Any State or Fanatics based on where they come from or who they Represent. UD tried to start up that hobby based on the Tiger Woods Phenomenon. That Entire Hobby, last I looked, was Phased OUT in 2005. The Tiger RCs and Auto's will Always have a Limited Audience, and they May become Way More Valuable due to the phase out. It's Supply & Demand.
There is No ONE Driver that these cards can be Linked to.
NOT MEMORABILIA!
Melting down JUST Jeff Gordons seasonal tires for a print run is just not cost effective enough to make it worth Hoping that the Product Takes Off and becomes popular.
But, if the tires were attributed to One Pitstop, or all the tires from a Race that a driver WON, then there is a way to tie it to Something Tangible. There would be enough rubber to add to thousands of cards. Put out pix of the tires on the car in the pits stop area. NOW,  you have something.
Something to REMEMBER Something by, THAT's Memorabilia.

[supposedscammer]

yankeefan741939 Wrote:I think that they are not memorabilia cards.  you cant feel, or really even see, the "memorabilia".  its just ground up rubber shot onto the card during the printing process.  you cant even touch it at all because it is covered up by the material used to hold the ground up rubber onto the card.  If you cant feel the piece in question & not tell what it is, it doesnt count.  Its a unique card, & a pretty good concept, but nowhere close to a race used memorabilia card.  number em, call em inserts, call em paralells, but dont call em memoribilia cards. just my 2 cents

so true...
these type cards are NOT memorbilia cards. There is no visible connection to what was used. There are far better ways of calling a card a GU or memor card...used rubber (tire), piece of helmet, etc....or swatch of uniform. but recycled rubber or even soaked in gas from a certain race dont constitute it being a memorbilia card. IMO

[outlawz1979]

I say no if you shreded up a jersey and but it into the ink and had the player sign the card it would still only be a auto card.What is ink called with recycle tires in it (INK!!)
hmm what if you melted down the block of a race car and made a die cast car with it would it then be mem car-lol another way to look at it that would be cool

[sneekc]

Im going to say no, it is not memorabilia for a few reasons.
#1 Most printing inks are soy or petroleum based (oil).  Is there any proof that every tire
recycled into ink was from a race?  What about the additives that go
into breaking down tires for creation of the ink?  It isn't just a melt
the tires and you have ink process, there are many factors that far
remove the memorabilia aspect from the card.
#2 When a memorabilia card is classified as such, it contains an actual
piece that has been cut to fit the card.  Not a broken down portion of
the initial material that was considered memorabilia.  If jerseys could
be distilled to create ink and the same type of card was produced with
"jersey ink" and classified as a game used card, collectors would have
no part and the company would most likely be laughed at for it's
attempt.
#3  When a card is labeled as memorabilia it should have some type of
physical connection that can be touched, seen, or even smelled (yuck!) 
Memorabilia cards are meant to give collectors that gateway to their
favorite player or personality.  Owning an actual piece that was
directly derived from that person or person's "tool of the trade". 
Even the pennies or tokens that Topps used in it's Subway Series insert
should be considered a form of memorabilia.  The item may not have a
direct connection with the particular player, but it is from the year
that the showdown took place.  Thus taking the beholder back in time a
bit.

I hate to ask but what is a company doing printing with petroleum based
process inks of any kind? Hello?!?! Don't you know that almost every
type of sheet or roll fed press is using soy based inks for the safety
of their employees and the minimal ecological and economic effects? 
Oil based inks = hazardous to humans, environment, etc.  Also, supports the unnecessary consumption of petroleum.
Soy Based inks = Not recommended for consumption but wont hurt you,
environmentally sound, supports natural renewable resource, produced
with Soy beans and pigments.

I guess there are 2 arguments that are made here.  The card is not
memorabilia and the real issue, why is this company using an oil based
ink?  Even if they consider this recycling old tires, they are still
using more energy in creating a substance that is considered hazardous.