[latendressecards]

ejahnke Wrote:

I never knew there was a "COO" here...I guess they will be missed? 

Eric, can we take it from your remark that in fact CEO Peter Gudmundsson,  Grant Sandground , and Hockey/Baseball Editor Al Muir were not let go?

[newfiecomicguy1]

Simple question, how is it SPAM? Seems like a simple enough question, basic, to the point, how is it spam, what am I spamming?

If beckett deletes this post with such a simple question then they will certainly be without 1 more member. Former senior member with almost 10,000 post. If thats how they treat long term members then fine, lock it deleted and I will REALLY move on like most of the other long term former collectors.

Babying Wrote:Read the TOS, your post is not tolerated here...

[ejahnke]

latendressecards Wrote:

ejahnke Wrote:

I never knew there was a "COO" here...I guess they will be missed? 

Eric, can we take it from your remark that in fact CEO Peter Gudmundsson,  Grant Sandground , and Hockey/Baseball Editor Al Muir were not let go?

I can't comment on anything specific, except to say that any personnel moves at Beckett have had absolutely nothing to do with the Web site.

The point is, don't believe things that you hear second-hand, especially when someone is using information incorrectly.

[latendressecards]

ejahnke Wrote:

latendressecards Wrote:

ejahnke Wrote:

I never knew there was a "COO" here...I guess they will be missed? 

Eric, can we take it from your remark that in fact CEO Peter Gudmundsson,  Grant Sandground , and Hockey/Baseball Editor Al Muir were not let go?

I can't comment on anything specific, except to say that any personnel moves at Beckett have had absolutely nothing to do with the Web site.

The point is, don't believe things that you hear second-hand, especially when someone is using information incorrectly.

I respect that you can't comment on anything specific, but you acknowledge that there have been staffing changes....can you confirm whether the individuals I mentioned are among those staff changes, or are they still in the employ of Beckett Media?

Also, based on your above response, any staff changes which have occurred, would be presumed to be the result of a poor response by customers to the changes to the magazine, since they have absolutely nothing to do with the website.

On a side note, it is my opinion that Beckett would be well served to inform their readership themelves of significant changes, especially when they involve someone a widely recognized as Al Muir, since as you note, secondary parties have a tendency to pass along the information as they understand it.

[newfiecomicguy1]

Unlike those guys I enjoy the hobby and use it as a fun hobby and activity to share with my 7 year old son. I wish that the boards stayed the way they were before. There were alot of great topics with a ton of great information. I don't want to see this site fail, I want to see it become strong and fun like it was.

If its true the it is too bad about the beckett staff. As a collector the new magazine and the new site are big disappointments to me. Are the new magazines even available outside of hobby shops? No shops near me even carry the magazine (including Walmart) and there use to be several. I use to frequent the site several times a day and I would spend hours a day on here. I even had it open in a window during working hours. I always looked forward to banter with my favorite members over cards and the game itself. I also bought from the market place, with the new site I have not even went to that section and I don't plan on going there. I really think beckett shot themselves in the foot (so to speak). I wish beckett would admitt the failure and fix it before its too late.

[hawksfan67]

Ok. This is the fourth time I replied to a post. All three of my other posts were either deleted or for some reason didn't "upload" correctly. I don't see why my other posts would have been deleted because, although they were negitive about this site, they were almost identical to others who feel the same way. I've heard it said that the old site was obsolete in that it couldn't grow any more. That being said, can't beckett at least make this "new site" look like the old one? I think it's a comfort level that is p everyone off. Not to mention a few other things. I for one was very happy with the layout and navigation of the old site. I also spent anywhere from 5 to 20 hours a week on the boards talking hockey and making trades. It was because of the fact that I could continue my passion for collecting from the comfort of my home that I still continue to collect. But, speaking for myself, I do not want to learn a new system all over again. I do not have the time or the patience.

So here are my top beefs with Beckett. Feel free to add any or change the order in which this new Beckett is p you off.

1) TERRIBLE site layout.
2) Pay for trades? Are you kidding me?
3) Post counts set to zero. Please, you couldn't figure out a way to transfer them?
4) Bugs. Not only are you trying to shove this change down are throats but I doesn't even work before they make the switch?

I'm sorry to say, but someone should lose their job over this........

Just my two cents........

[cardsgottago]

ejahnke Wrote:

latendressecards Wrote:

ejahnke Wrote:

I never knew there was a "COO" here...I guess they will be missed? 

Eric, can we take it from your remark that in fact CEO Peter Gudmundsson,  Grant Sandground , and Hockey/Baseball Editor Al Muir were not let go?

I can't comment on anything specific, except to say that any personnel moves at Beckett have had absolutely nothing to do with the Web site.

The point is, don't believe things that you hear second-hand, especially when someone is using information incorrectly.

No, a Beckett person DID in fact state quite clearly that these people were no longer with BM.

Really? A website completely overhauls itself, the negative backlash is deafening, message board use is probably the lowest is has been in YEARS, and you honestly sit there and type that the two events are completely unrelated? I have some oceanfront property in Saskatchewan I think you'd be interested in.

When a company "removes" its' CEO and a handful of its highest ranking people, it's a sure sign of desperation... a don't sit there and tell me otherwise. Take a good look around Corporate America over the last decade of the companies that have done the same thing... they've all been in big-time trouble... don't sit there and tell me Beckett is any different.

[cardsgottago]

broda Wrote:But, speaking for myself, I do not want to learn a new system all over again. I do not have the time or the patience.
So here are my top beefs with Beckett.
1) TERRIBLE site layout.
2) Pay for trades? Are you kidding me?
3) Post counts set to zero. Please, you couldn't figure out a way to transfer them?
4) Bugs. Not only are you trying to shove this change down are throats but I doesn't even work before they make the switch?
I'm sorry to say, but someone should lose their job over this........

Beckett has gone from a hobby leader to something other than that, imo. I've been here, and I've tried, but I can honestly say I don't like it. Not because the old boards were better, because they were bad too, in a different way, but the new boards are not the improvement that was advertised.

I think the FACT that many beta-testers either a) never tested or b) had their feedback ignored is a testament to Beckett being out of touch with what the users want. The FACT that they are now saying "tell us what you want" after the new site has been released is an implied acknowledgement of "we kinda messed this up, huh?"

Finally, the FACT that there is even a discussion of paying to trade on this site has driven many message board users away. Whether is ever gets implemented or not doesn't matter anymore... that damage has been done.

Like I've said before, I used to have both print and OPG, now I have neither, and will continue to operate without it (I think anyone who spends a few minutes doing a bit of research can do it on their own). My reasons:
1. IMO, the pricing in the print is not indicative of the market reality. It is grossly outdated my the time I get it through the mail. It reflects pricing about 4-7 days before it went to press. By the time it gets to my mailbox, it's at least 2 weeks old...
2. I found the quality (and quantity) of the articles was slowly declining over time to the point where I wouldn't read them anymore.
3. It's no longer worth it's price point. $14.99 is atrocious, imo.
4. The way this website launch has been managed since Launch Day. The attitude that has been displayed ("just go watch the tutorial!") by employees of BM has just turned me completely away from this site. Further, the snippy comments by Eric "I never knew there was a COO here... I guess he will be missed?" just drive me nuts. You knew EXACTLY what I meant Eric, but instead of a polite correction, you chose to be sarcastic. Point made.

[newfiecomicguy1]

I guess its the old "don't bite the hand that feeds you". IMO the magazine pricing is wayyyy out to lunch. Beckett officials claim that the pricing is based on more then just ebay and that ebay is only a small portion of the market. BULL!!! Ebay is the biggest part of the card market, almost every card new or old are listed on ebay at some point, most are listed several times over a few years.

Ebay completed prices are about half of what beckett guides them for. It would be way too much work to adjust the entire guide plus it would ruin most hobby shops who is also beckett magazines #1 customers. Outside of card shops I say only about 10% of the cards sell for beckett BV. Just imagen if every card shop had to reduce 50-75% of their singles inventory by 50%...yikes (even though that would be the proper market value for those cards). People buy from ebay because its a true reflection of what collectors want to pay for these items.

Combining all the magazines into one was a horrible idea. As I mentioned earlier I can't even buy the magazine anymore, no one here carries it. I am not buying a subscription because I don't agree with the pricing however I do like the articles and I do use the magazine as a ref guide for card and player info in relation to the hobby.

cardsgottago Wrote:

broda Wrote:But, speaking for myself, I do not want to learn a new system all over again. I do not have the time or the patience.
So here are my top beefs with Beckett.
1) TERRIBLE site layout.
2) Pay for trades? Are you kidding me?
3) Post counts set to zero. Please, you couldn't figure out a way to transfer them?
4) Bugs. Not only are you trying to shove this change down are throats but I doesn't even work before they make the switch?
I'm sorry to say, but someone should lose their job over this........

Beckett has gone from a hobby leader to something other than that, imo. I've been here, and I've tried, but I can honestly say I don't like it. Not because the old boards were better, because they were bad too, in a different way, but the new boards are not the improvement that was advertised.

I think the FACT that many beta-testers either a) never tested or b) had their feedback ignored is a testament to Beckett being out of touch with what the users want. The FACT that they are now saying "tell us what you want" after the new site has been released is an implied acknowledgement of "we kinda messed this up, huh?"

Finally, the FACT that there is even a discussion of paying to trade on this site has driven many message board users away. Whether is ever gets implemented or not doesn't matter anymore... that damage has been done.

Like I've said before, I used to have both print and OPG, now I have neither, and will continue to operate without it (I think anyone who spends a few minutes doing a bit of research can do it on their own). My reasons:
1. IMO, the pricing in the print is not indicative of the market reality. It is grossly outdated my the time I get it through the mail. It reflects pricing about 4-7 days before it went to press. By the time it gets to my mailbox, it's at least 2 weeks old...
2. I found the quality (and quantity) of the articles was slowly declining over time to the point where I wouldn't read them anymore.
3. It's no longer worth it's price point. $14.99 is atrocious, imo.
4. The way this website launch has been managed since Launch Day. The attitude that has been displayed ("just go watch the tutorial!") by employees of BM has just turned me completely away from this site. Further, the snippy comments by Eric "I never knew there was a COO here... I guess he will be missed?" just drive me nuts. You knew EXACTLY what I meant Eric, but instead of a polite correction, you chose to be sarcastic. Point made.

[DrArn]

Unbeleiveable responses from a employee of the company. Telling people what they can or can't or shouldn't talk about on the message boards. Just a little rediculous don't you think. If this is what the people want to talk about whether it's negative or positive is their choice. Once again the dictatorship style of employee(s) rears it's ugly head. Looks to me like you are trying to CONTROL what is being said on the boards because the negative comments are scarring off potential new members and that old members who are still here may leave as a result of these comments. Just my opinion, is that allowed here.People don't like the new concept for many reasons, get it through your thick skulls Beckett. Trying to cram it down there throats is not the way to do it. IMO. This new site should have been tested better so it was alot more functional when it launched than what it was when it was launched. Even you the employee of Beckett can't deny that can you. If you bought a car and it worked like the site did when it launched would you be this patient all this time later with it still being a pain to operate it. I think not. Again just my opinion.As for how the company operates under the old Maxwell Smart "cone of silence" and not advising anyone of the changes within the company, you are only opening the floodgates to speculation and rumours being spread. So don't freak out when it happens because you are catering to it happening by your actions or lack thereof. General observation of a past frequent user. Compared to the old site "YES IT"S DEAD AROUND HERE" for many obvious reasons  Hope this post by me is still OK in what is supposed to be a constitutional right in a free world, you know Freedom of speech. No response required to this rant by beckett employees, just expressing my opinion !

Rant Over.