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Frank & Son ( SoCal )
07-16-2008, 11:28 AM
Post: #21
Frank & Son ( SoCal )
fugazzi Wrote:
leelakerlee Wrote:
AaronThompson28 Wrote:
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brouthercard Wrote:On the second to the last east aisle, there are two dealers who sell sealed boxes, then there is one blond-hair guy who sells singles and some loose packs from boxes.

The wax guys dollar dan and a husband and wife combo are safe in terms of sealed boxes. Don't buy any loose packs from the husband and wife- but their sealed boxes are legit- that's where I pulled a 2004 sp game patch Hideki Matsui dual patch logo 1/1 autograph as well as my Longoria red- the two best hits of my life from the same dealer (what are the chances of that?)

The last guy is a guy with blond hair and is frankly a creep and a jerk.
I bought 9 loose packs (remainder of the box) of 2004 sp prospects from him and there was not a single jersey or autograph (obviously searched), he had some single packs of bowman draft that sold as well, but no autographs out of those either (obviously searched). Stay clear from that guy.

The other husband wife combo in the middle aisles is legit, as are the rest of the sealed wax people in the place.

Stay far away from single packs of that blond hair guy- he only has single packs and his cases are full of the hits from those single packs- stay far away.

This is the one who I was talking about....haven't pulled anything...Funny as I also bought quite a few of the 2004 sp prospects packs maybe 12 to 15 and didn't pull a thing....and I have others tell me he is a known searcher


Where is he in terms of the ATM by the side parking lot entrance, I am really trying to rack my brain on who it is.


One of my favorite dealers Kenny(lots of highend bkb) stopped setting up, We used to sit and play poker with toploaders all day.

Is Kenny the guy who is usually set up with his son?

kenny's an asian dude, has a lot of nice basketball stuff

Make sure you haggle with this dude. Once he gave me an extra pack.
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07-16-2008, 01:34 PM
Post: #22
Frank & Son ( SoCal )
xciceroguy Wrote:
fugazzi Wrote:
leelakerlee Wrote:
AaronThompson28 Wrote:
jeffpowers Wrote:
brouthercard Wrote:On the second to the last east aisle, there are two dealers who sell sealed boxes, then there is one blond-hair guy who sells singles and some loose packs from boxes.

The wax guys dollar dan and a husband and wife combo are safe in terms of sealed boxes. Don't buy any loose packs from the husband and wife- but their sealed boxes are legit- that's where I pulled a 2004 sp game patch Hideki Matsui dual patch logo 1/1 autograph as well as my Longoria red- the two best hits of my life from the same dealer (what are the chances of that?)

The last guy is a guy with blond hair and is frankly a creep and a jerk.
I bought 9 loose packs (remainder of the box) of 2004 sp prospects from him and there was not a single jersey or autograph (obviously searched), he had some single packs of bowman draft that sold as well, but no autographs out of those either (obviously searched). Stay clear from that guy.

The other husband wife combo in the middle aisles is legit, as are the rest of the sealed wax people in the place.

Stay far away from single packs of that blond hair guy- he only has single packs and his cases are full of the hits from those single packs- stay far away.

This is the one who I was talking about....haven't pulled anything...Funny as I also bought quite a few of the 2004 sp prospects packs maybe 12 to 15 and didn't pull a thing....and I have others tell me he is a known searcher


Where is he in terms of the ATM by the side parking lot entrance, I am really trying to rack my brain on who it is.


One of my favorite dealers Kenny(lots of highend bkb) stopped setting up, We used to sit and play poker with toploaders all day.

Is Kenny the guy who is usually set up with his son?

kenny's an asian dude, has a lot of nice basketball stuff

Make sure you haggle with this dude. Once he gave me an extra pack.


Kenny was the funniest, I set up with him a few times and it was hilarious, His work got in the way though and he couldn't do it anymore.


Randy sets up with his dad right next to him, I still go every once in a while to trade him inserts/base/game used for new wax, he was the one that played poker with me and Kenny, Good Good times.
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07-16-2008, 01:38 PM
Post: #23
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kibagami777 Wrote:I haven't been for a while but when I was there I'd go religiously Weds and Sat. There was this one stand that looked like a husband and wife and whenever I'd pull with other friends, we never got anything of value. Could be look but I think it was otherwise. Just be safe and wait until they open a new box before you bust.

That couple was selling Hot Packs at the 2007 National in Cleveland.
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07-16-2008, 02:00 PM
Post: #24
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Wow, I'm a little bit surprised about Scott. He'll always knock off a couple bucks when I buy from him. I do have to ask though. The last time I bought a pack from him, I pulled a kevin whelan refractor. I'll have to be more careful with him in the future.

There is one guy deeper in that aisle on the opposite side of Scott I am not very fond of. I've never bothered to ask him for his name. He's an older guy who always has a younger guy with him. His display has mostly vintage and a couple angels autos I sold him. He is way too greedy for his age. I brought in a kershaw auto once and he said things like, "Where's the 'crayshaw' at?" and "Is that any good?"

Two of my favorite dealers are Chris (skinny white dude with a green hat) and Dario (used to set up next to the guy with all the cut sigs). I was pretty upset after finding out Dario sold out. He was always easy to deal with and had cards I liked. I almost always make a deal with Chris when I'm there. He saved me some money last time from the grading booth by spotting flaws I was oblivious to.
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07-16-2008, 02:37 PM
Post: #25
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Ill be there tomorrow. Anyone else going?
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07-16-2008, 04:16 PM
Post: #26
Frank & Son ( SoCal )
I haven't been there in a while. I would go and sell some of my angels tickets to a couple of dealers there. Some of the dealers that used to buy tickets aren't as interested any more and with the price of gas going up, it's not really worth it for me to drive down there unless I really need something or get the urge to crack a box or two. I may go to the show this weekend if I can sell my red sox/angels tickets.

Fugazzi, did Dario stop setting up and sell all his inventory? I find that hard to believe? Maybe he's taking a break and traveling back to his family overseas and might be gone for a while?
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07-16-2008, 04:27 PM
Post: #27
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David Campos Wrote:I haven't been there in a while. I would go and sell some of my angels tickets to a couple of dealers there. Some of the dealers that used to buy tickets aren't as interested any more and with the price of gas going up, it's not really worth it for me to drive down there unless I really need something or get the urge to crack a box or two. I may go to the show this weekend if I can sell my red sox/angels tickets.

Fugazzi, did Dario stop setting up and sell all his inventory? I find that hard to believe? Maybe he's taking a break and traveling back to his family overseas and might be gone for a while?

Dario was one of the last true card dealers there. That's sad to hear, hopefully he's just taking a break. He was one of just a handful of dealers who would actually buy your prospect stuff and pack war with you, plus deal with you and give you a fair price.
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07-17-2008, 03:14 AM
Post: #28
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David Campos Wrote:I haven't been there in a while. I would go and sell some of my angels tickets to a couple of dealers there. Some of the dealers that used to buy tickets aren't as interested any more and with the price of gas going up, it's not really worth it for me to drive down there unless I really need something or get the urge to crack a box or two. I may go to the show this weekend if I can sell my red sox/angels tickets.

Fugazzi, did Dario stop setting up and sell all his inventory? I find that hard to believe? Maybe he's taking a break and traveling back to his family overseas and might be gone for a while?

he sold all his stuff completely, he's out of the card game for good. he's having some personal/family issues is what I hear.
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07-17-2008, 03:26 AM
Post: #29
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fugazzi Wrote:
David Campos Wrote:I haven't been there in a while. I would go and sell some of my angels tickets to a couple of dealers there. Some of the dealers that used to buy tickets aren't as interested any more and with the price of gas going up, it's not really worth it for me to drive down there unless I really need something or get the urge to crack a box or two. I may go to the show this weekend if I can sell my red sox/angels tickets.

Fugazzi, did Dario stop setting up and sell all his inventory? I find that hard to believe? Maybe he's taking a break and traveling back to his family overseas and might be gone for a while?

he sold all his stuff completely, he's out of the card game for good. he's having some personal/family issues is what I hear.


That is to bad about Dario, I enjoyed talking and dealing with him. I hope his issues get cleared up.

I have never had much luck with Scotts packs, but I just take it as good or bad days. Never really did much single packs, mainly boxes. But had a couple of good pulls from packs. In general I would stay away from boxes that you did not see opened and dont know the dealer. Buying unopened boxes is probably better, But then people will say you need to pull the boxes from fresh cases.Smile
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