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08-24-2014, 09:02 AM
can anyone answer ?
1) why do some people come here to make trades if they don't want to use beckett values????
2) why are some trades so long to get finalized if people really want cards from me???
sunday is the day to wonder about the point of trying to trade with crappy members...
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08-24-2014, 10:41 AM
RE: can anyone answer ?
Here are the best answers I have for you.
1) In some instances this makes sense but not as a whole. For instance there are several cards that the pricing hasn't been updated in years, yet the card definitely isn't worth anywhere near what it once was but Beckett never bothered to update the price. Another example would be when a player starts getting hot and their cards are HOT and values are on the rise, but they haven't been updated yet. However by and large the book value is the best starting point for negotiations. However I feel that starting by using eBay sale values is a tactic for many people to try and get better deals based on a few sales. I agree that if you are using Beckett's trading feature than you need to agree to use Beckett pricing, but also understand the 2 exceptions I listed.
2) People get busy and sometimes life gets in the way of completing trades quickly.
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08-24-2014, 10:51 AM
RE: can anyone answer ?
1. Some people do, some people don't. In general, most things that have been out for awhile have actual values at a relatively equal value to their BV. The same isn't true for newer cards as their value is maintained closer to BV until supply catches up to demand (until more of it has been busted). Older junk wax cards, especially, have BVs much higher than their actual value ( sale value) because of supply. For PC trades that people intend to hold onto, BV is pretty accurate with how time will devalue them, at least relatively. On higher-end cards though, BV can be really far off and condition/scarcity takes over.
2. Eh...People, myself included I suppose (though not in this instance), tend to not be in a hurry if there are a million copies of a card. If you're trading low numbered cards or high end you'll find some people more cooperative. We have many different members, from active duty military to just busy people. Persistence pays off, though. Better luck in future trades.
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08-24-2014, 12:46 PM
RE: can anyone answer ?
(08-24-2014, 09:02 AM)nicowebb4 Wrote: 1) why do some people come here to make trades if they don't want to use beckett values????
From personal experience, I have run into this when trading for MJ cards. A MJ card may only have a BV of $25 but would sell for $15 (just making these numbers up). I might also have a card that the other person wants with a BV of $25 but may only sell for a couple dollars. The person with the MJ card does not want to give up a card that would sell for more than a card they are receiving. So instead we have gone by Sell Value rather than BV.
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08-26-2014, 11:47 AM
RE: can anyone answer ?
Building up reputations with traders is key: I give you a break this time, and you reciprocate when you can. Yet this only happens over time. There are some fabulous traders out there, and I always do what I can to help them out.
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