[MRHARPER]

I picked up a Red Wave Refractor /25 recently, but I had a few questions about it. I was looking at the checklist for this product (2012 Bowman), and I couldn't find the odds of pulling the Red Wave Refractors, or how they are even obtained. Was there a special promotion for these like the Wrapper Redemption for the Blue Wave? Can anybody help me out here?

[jcanavas]

The card you may be referring to is the "red ice" that were randomly inserted in packs. I pulled 1 out of a regular hobby box last year. Not sure on what the odds are though, 1 every few boxes or so may be?

[cspen]

There were also Red Wave refractors that came in Blue wave refractor packs. The Red Wave are numbered to 25

[MRHARPER]

Thanks guys, mine is the Red Wave variation that's numbered /25

[x5ofspades]

red wave were i believe 1 in 4 blue wave packs. theyre sharp cards for sure!

[MRHARPER]

Thanks x5ofspades!

[tntmclmm]

Only prospects came in the blue wave packs the Harper had to come out of a hobby pack. No idea about the odds.

[x5ofspades]

Harper was BCP10, so yes there was a blue wave and red wave harper.

[MRHARPER]

I have the Red Wave Manny Machado #BCP217, pretty sweet looking card!

[magneto2]

Not sure if this the answer but. Topps has been doing Blue Wave refractors since 2011 i think. Red Waves are much harder to come by. Also if you are talking about 2013 bowman red ice those are also numbered to 25 and come every couple boxes for hobby. These both should be listed in the database under Blue wave refractors and red ice.