(02-23-2013 01:51 AM)aarhart1985 Wrote: you are right the ones that do not have the super team logo on them are pack inserted and are worth much more.The super team logo cards came in sets that were won via redemption.If I remeber correctly Beckett's old magazines woould price the super team refractors at .20% of the regular value...for example
Topps Mystery Finest Bordered Refractor Pippen BV $25 (not sure on real BV just an example)
Topps Mystery Finest Super Team Refractor $5
(02-23-2013 09:06 AM)zinger82 Wrote: The reason why they go for about the same is that people are confused which is which. The Super Teams were part of redemptions and are much more readily available so they should be worth less. All you had to do to get the NBA Finals (Bordered Refractor with Super Team Logo) was get the Chicago Bulls or San Antionio Spurs Super Team card (odds 1:36 with two possibilities so 1:540 packs for the Jordan). While the Mystery Finest Bordered Refractors were (1:66 so 1:1452 packs for the Jordan) I attached the link to the Beckett set information below.
(02-23-2013 11:19 AM)briankort Wrote: You posted 2 different cards the base and the refractor. That is not a true comparison. The super teams refractor gets listed by beckett on there bgs cards exactly the same as the non super teams version. You may also be correct about the odds and value, but at least with the Jordan people seem to be paying about the same for them. I put the blame on Beckett for not listing them seperately in the price guide. If one has a higher BV than the other, then it should be listed seperately. I also have no other way to list them in my org as well.
(02-23-2013 11:25 AM)jacobystealshome Wrote: the super team isnt considered a refractor, iirc
(02-23-2013 04:48 PM)taffster74 Wrote: The superteam bordered refractors work out to be roughly half (40-55%) of the regular (packed) mystery finest bordered refractors). This according to the beckett annual. Obviously i can't give out prices here (against TOS), but the percentage is a rough calculation based on the jordan card you have shown.