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OT: I don't get it... Newton vs Dalton
11-11-2012, 03:34 PM
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OT: I don't get it... Newton vs Dalton
Ok, so i'm still not tracking... why the heck are Cam's cards valued so much more than Dalton's???

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Cam Newton record - 8-17
Andy Dalton record - 14-11
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Career Rushing:
Newton: 1,060 yds, 18 TDs, 5 Fumbles
Dalton: 227 yds, 2 TDs, 1 Fumble
+1 Newton

Career Passing:
Newton: 6,194 yds, 29 TDs, 27 Ints
Dalton: 5,727 yds, 38 TDs, 24 Ints
+1 Dalton

ESPN QBR:
Newton: 77.7 (#28 vs all NFL QBs)
Dalton: 86.7 (#12 vs all NFL QBs)
+1 Dalton

TD to TO ratio:
Newton: 1.47
Dalton: 1.6
+1 Dalton

I'm not saying that Dalton's BV should be through the roof, but there is no way that something like a Contenders RC should be 313% more in BV or that a NT should be 250% more in favor of Cam Newton.

I'd be willing to see an increase in Dalton's stuff or a dramatic decrease in Cam's stuff.

Any other opinions out there?

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11-11-2012, 04:04 PM
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RE: OT: I don't get it... Newton vs Dalton
Since my opinion in this case was asked for, I'd say supply and demand. I have done no tracking at all obviously, but maybe Newton just has more people clamoring for his stuff, which would make it have higher bv's from higher dollar sales.

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11-11-2012, 04:05 PM
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RE: OT: I don't get it... Newton vs Dalton
Shhhhhhhhhhhh! I don't want Dalton cards to skyrocket until I get a few. Lol. Wink

Honestly, I think it's because of style of play and potential. Cam is exciting to watch. He can make plays that Dalton just cannot, because he has every physical tool. If both QB's reach their full potential, Cam will be levels above Dalton. Collectors, I think are attracted to highlights just as much as winning. Just my thought...
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11-11-2012, 04:07 PM
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RE: OT: I don't get it... Newton vs Dalton
values arent based on stats. as wavy said: supply, demand

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11-11-2012, 04:15 PM
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RE: OT: I don't get it... Newton vs Dalton
Newton is far more marketable, he has commericals, mag covers, etc. People are all about whos talked up by the media more.

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11-11-2012, 06:20 PM
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RE: OT: I don't get it... Newton vs Dalton
Gingers never get the love

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11-11-2012, 06:30 PM
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RE: OT: I don't get it... Newton vs Dalton
(11-11-2012 04:15 PM)chads-cards Wrote:  Newton is far more marketable, he has commericals, mag covers, etc. People are all about whos talked up by the media more.

He plays with a style that people find more exciting. I think he's terrible this year but that means zilch when talking about collecting.

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11-11-2012, 06:32 PM (This post was last modified: 11-11-2012 06:33 PM by jmessick86.)
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RE: OT: I don't get it... Newton vs Dalton
It's because ginger's don't have souls...Case closed
It's because gingers don't have souls...Case closed

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11-11-2012, 07:19 PM (This post was last modified: 11-11-2012 07:20 PM by mcleodfive.)
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RE: OT: I don't get it... Newton vs Dalton
Newton has dramatically decreased IMO. Just one example would be Absolute rpm's are around $75 now from the $115-$140 range before. I'm not saying he's gone down to Dalton prices & that he shouldn't, but that gap you are talking about is A LOT smaller.

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11-11-2012, 07:48 PM (This post was last modified: 11-11-2012 07:57 PM by Duchovny2.)
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RE: OT: I don't get it... Newton vs Dalton
Becuz people round ya be crazay for his tuff, yo
(11-11-2012 06:32 PM)jmessick86 Wrote:  It's because ginger's don't have souls...Case closed
It's because gingers don't have souls...Case closed

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