(09-12-2012 05:37 AM)sky20t Wrote: Every one is crazy over the PMG hype recently.
But why is PMG so much more popular over the other great looking parallel such as rubies, credential, refractor, xfractor and so forth?
Will any other inserts beat out the PMG as the top spot parallel chain in the next decade or so?
(09-12-2012 03:08 PM)crimedawg47 Wrote: Still waiting on 1990-91 Hoops base to catch on...ILL BE RICH
(09-12-2012 12:46 PM)rjcj2017 Wrote: Upper Deck is killing them by printing so many of them in the new Retro stuff.
The values don't show it right now, but as soon as everyone figures out how many of them there are, they'll drop.
Plus, with no NBA license, they won't stay this hot for long.
(09-12-2012 07:51 PM)jpleazme805 Wrote: PMG Retro are overrated!! Why pay so much money for a card that is not autographed & has a print run of /150? Don't make since.. they are beautiful cards... & UD gave the collectors what they wanted, but I think UD is manipulating the market... they or LCS let product get out early... or maybe, some cards that were not put into packs, went to a dealer or friend of somebody high up the Chain of Command within UD... that person put them on ebay before Retro was scheduled to be released... collectors went hungry.. then the listings were pulled before they were sold.. I look at this as false demand..
People are hungry for new products.. Panini didn't do very good this year.. in my opinion.. they screwed up the RC autos & those thousands & thousands of RC redemptions.... i wonder if I will get my fulfilled, or replaced...??
somebody will probably try to suck up as much PMG Retro as possible, only to flip it months & years down the road..
I do not know why people go hungry over college uniforms... I think the autos are more valuable than an old picture of a HOF, or even a Lebron college uniform..
UD was lazy, & used the same pictures across the board for their different inserts.. somebody else on Beckett, mentioned it already... I take this as being extremely lazy!!
UD withheld the release of Retro, so they can make people wait, they knew Panini was going to have trouble with some of their product sells.. they waited for the right moment to release it.. right now, there is no basketball on TV, collectors are starved to spend their money... right now was the best time for UD to release RETRO...
But I do not understand how a box of cards with a SRG of $250 (or what ever it was).. is now selling at $350-600 a box... that is crazy!! My LCS sold 6 boxes at $220 presell... that is what he told me yesterday.. he kept asking me & sending me emails every other week, asking me if I wanted to preorder them from him.. he has a very small card shop & doesn't sell much basketball.. he probably has less than a dozen customers that collect basketball.. three are there just about every other week.. busting boxes & throwing them up on ebay for others to see...
I will not buy RETRO or HOOPS... Hoops is too much of a gamble, because of their large checklist of autos.. RETRO, I can get singles for cheaper than a box of cards...
I'm not spending hundreds or thousands of dollars for non-autograph cards!! I am not that rich. I am an average collector. I took a $30,000 pay-cut when I got out of the navy last October... I can't buy a box of cards right now.. I have to save up for my next big buy.. hopefully, prices of boxes stay reasonable... for future products, if not.. I am going to buy some older boxes... I am in the middle of opening a 1994-95 SKYBOX 2 box right now... love the inserts.. most appear to be in very good shape... no chipping, or very little chipping. they are going directly into penny sleeves & toploaders to prevent chipping...