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(06-25-2012 09:38 AM)the cardboard fan Wrote: but not someone owed what he is owed to spot start
(06-25-2012 11:22 AM)bazooka joe Wrote: It really seems like they traded him for the sake of trading him. I bet Bobby V didnt want him in the clubhouse anymore. There is no doubt that Youk would have helped us make the playoffs more than Stewart and Lillibridge will.
(06-25-2012 11:15 AM)jacobystealshome Wrote: um...you cant afford 1 million this year, and 1 million to buy him out next year, plus give away two guys that arent very good and arent prospects anymore?
because that is what the chisox gave up
(06-25-2012 12:30 PM)the cardboard fan Wrote: His contract was for more than that... you take essentially half officially with where we are at in the season and then minus whatever the deal allowed
Why the Red Sox sent 5.5 mil or whatever you said and got those two AAAA lifers is beyond me but with that being said for 1 mil I still wouldn't want Youk in his current state I don't believe as that is not what they really need
(06-25-2012 11:43 AM)bazooka joe Wrote: Personally, I wanted them to try out Middlebrooks in the OF. I understand that he hadnt played it in the minors, but I have to imagine he is young enough and athletic enough of a guy to handle it.
(06-25-2012 12:40 PM)jacobystealshome Wrote: a few issues:
1. you dont "try out a position" when you first gets to the bigs
2. they had him play some in the OF in ST. wasnt great at it
3. our outfield is actually really crowded, or about to become crowded
a. sweeney and ross, who both have played very well
b. kalish and nava, who both have played very well
c. ellsbury is back in 3 weeks, crawford back in 5-6
(06-25-2012 01:38 PM)bazooka joe Wrote: 1. They could have sent him down to the minors to work on OF play
2. If Adrian can try OF, so can Middlebrooks
3. Sweeney has been hurt for a while now and its not like he is a stud. Hes been playing well, but I would much rather have had Youk and Middlebrooks than Sweeney. Kalish is no guarantee to play well and the same goes for Nava for the foreseeable future. Ellsbury and Crawford hopefully will be back on schedule and in regular form, but why not at least wait until the deadline and for them to actually be back?
I really cant imagine Youkilis would have lost value from now until the trade deadline unless he got injured. Why not wait til then so you get a better idea of what you are going to get from Ellsbury and Crawford ?
I do understand that we will have a crowded OF in the future, but right now there would have been room to at least experiment with Middlebrooks out there. I just dont see what the rush was.
(06-25-2012 02:05 PM)jacobystealshome Wrote: you are ignoring a few things, but we'll skip all of them for the most salient one:
Youk can barely stay on the field, has had multiple injuries, and frankly, cant hit anymore
and not just this season. since last year, he has hit .250.
oh, and the other thing: he cant really play third base all that well anymore. injuries have robbed him of his gold glove caliber fielding he had 4 years ago, and now is a below-average fielder at third (he would be better at first)
so: why are we trying to find room in the lineup for a .225 hitter who cant field and is constantly injured?