(06-11-2012 03:26 PM)william2012 Wrote: every athlete cheats, except for maybe tim tebow, LMAO. nothing else is even an argument. your bringing up personal lives, im telling you how lebron treated the only fans who were loyal to him. kobe doesnt have some ridiculous im the best pre game ritual either, and kobe has never quit on his team ever. kobe didnt tell everyone he was the best he showed it. lebron he tells everyone hes the best with nothing to back it up yet....we can talk paper all you want, but paper doesnt make a player great, it takes so much more than statistics....kobe and jordan just happened to have those too.
(06-11-2012 07:03 PM)tristanrules Wrote: Kobe likes the pass the blame on others and never himself
Sign of a leader? SUREEE
(06-11-2012 08:44 PM)robd5811 Wrote: I didnt get a chance to read this whole thread but what caught my eye was people stating kobe won the first 3 rings because of shaq?? Thats kinda absurd..yes shaq played a big part in those championships but kobe deserves just as much credit..if shaq won it on his own why didnt he win any with penny while he was in his prime? Hmm...it took teaming up with kobe to get a ring and kobe then proved he could win two more without him, shaq moved on to just win 1 more..moving on from that, i can guarantee 20-30 years from now kobe will be remembered more for his greatness than lebron unless bron magically catches up and starts wining rings..im also pretty sure lebron wont be able to play at kobes level when he reaches 34yo..what kobe is doing at his age is right now is more than impressive and i cant think of anyone else averaging almost 30 that late in a career..can anyone else?
(06-11-2012 09:59 PM)robd5811 Wrote: Ok your sayin he isnt the first one to play great in his mid 30s but you havent named anyone...if lebron is the greatest in the world then he would of won a ring last year..this is his 9th season so whats the hold up? Like i said kobe won two more after shaq so you saying it was because of shaq is just stupid..when lebron wins "A" ring then you can maybe start saying hes the best of his time...yes bron averages a couple more rebounds and assist then kobe but they play two diff positions kobes job is to shoot the basketball...stats arent everything guy
(06-11-2012 10:32 PM)robd5811 Wrote: +1 ^^...ive been watchin bball since the early 90s and alot of the younger crowd watching todays ball cant really understand what kobe did in his prime..im not taking anything from lebron but the truth is kobe will always be the pick of the two..i would like to give durant a couple more years before we start a mamba vs durantula thread lol but i think it would be a better discussion rather than bron