(06-06-2012 12:44 PM)jasonmj Wrote: Aweful all of last season? I am guessing you only watched the last two months when he was playing injured because they didn't have anyone better to replace him with.
I will say his last year was average for most players, but not aweful. (perhaps by Prado standards it was, but most big league players make a decent living hitting .260+ and having great defensive abilities.)
Aweful would be Heywards .230 average with 15 total hrs and only 40 some RBIs. didn't he flirt with the mendosa line most of last year?
Thats right Chipper Jones called him out for not playing because he didn't feel 100% and yet Prado and Chipper both played dispite their injuries.
Yet Heyward still is at the top of the list for All Star voting.
(06-06-2012 12:52 PM)ceocards Wrote: I respectfully, disagree - it's the All-STAR game, not the All-STAT game.
(06-06-2012 12:52 PM)ceocards Wrote: People going to the all star game aren't going to plop down a couple hundred bucks a ticket to see the Prados and CarGos of the world (no offense intended, of course) - they WANT to see the Jeters, Ripkens, Griffeys, etc.
(06-06-2012 01:11 PM)jers86 Wrote: i watch every minute of every braves game...he wasn't "average" last season, he was awful...beginning to end. in fact, i'm pretty sure he was a contender for worst ops among outfielders last season. oh, and i'm not arguing for heyward as he wasn't any better.
(06-06-2012 02:47 PM)jasonmj Wrote: I guess I get tired of the media telling us who the stars are and not letting the play and the character of the athletes determine it.
(06-06-2012 02:47 PM)jasonmj Wrote: First I agree....it isn't an All Stat game. I am just disappointed that people are so in love with a Home Run hit they over look the basic fundamentals of the game and many of it's outstanding players.
Again I agree, but with one slightly different point of view. Why are these people stars? Because these are the only people covered by the media. I was watching ESPN the other day Prado had a 3-5 day with 2 doubles a Triple and 2 Runs scored. The braves lost that game. He was not covered once during the game discussion and at the end when they show the abriviated box score I think it looked something like this
Diaz 2-4 3RBIs
Uggla 0-2 2 Walks 1 Run
And it had Ugglas name highlighted.
Now if you can't even make the teams score card with a 3 extra base hit day, you probably never will.
Braves MLB site isn't any better. All you ever see is Uggla Heyward Chipper and McCann (and assorted Pitchers) on their front page.
Not that they dont deserve it from time to time, but if the headline is Uggla/Heyward continue to struggle or McCann/Jones/Freeman on or off the DL and the top performances of players are never listed, then those players will never receive the credit they deserve.
I guess I get tired of the media telling us who the stars are and not letting the play and the character of the athletes determine it.
beginning to end???? You must have been drinking a lot during the middle of the year. Prado had multiple injuries and a major staph infection and still went out there and gave it all he had every game.
Don't worry I am sure you will get it right next time.
(06-07-2012 11:56 AM)kstjst Wrote: the all star game is a popularity contest...and rightfully so. it's who the fans WANT to see, not who DESERVES to go. I'd rather go and see a legend or a future hall of famer as opposed to some guy who's having a hot odd year. so give me an all star game team contains the likes of jeter, arod, pujols, hamilton, ichiro, fielder, braun, and cano as opposed to the guys that are the tops at their position...who wants to really see that?! if a player makes a name for themselves then the all star game will be a reality over the course of their career.