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(04-17-2012 05:19 AM)dbroockerd Wrote: Man, I have been trying to tell you this for a while. I post on most of your responses trying to explain this. Beckett is a guide and nothing more. It gives us an idea of the range of a cards sale. It's out of date the second it's printed. A card is subject to hype and inflation if a player is hot and subject to selling dirt cheap if a guy is at a low point or injured. Last season I was trying to grab Longoria cards.
The fact is no one wants to deal a $50 Hosmer that's selling for $40 for a $50 Kinsler that's selling for $18.
The truth of the matter is guys tend to use SV if they have the better card but BV if they want the better card. Just trying to be honest here.
(04-17-2012 05:22 AM)crazyforkinsler5 Wrote: I know and I don't understand it. Why even have a BV if we don't trade by BV? It just seems like having the OPG is a waste of money.
One of the only reasons I keep it is so I have have ORG. I've got probably 5,000 Rangers wants in my ORG and I don't have to have to redo those in a word processor document or something else, so I keep the OPG.
(04-17-2012 05:24 AM)dbroockerd Wrote: .
Why should a few guys at Beckett though decide the market? Shouldn't we the consumer decide the market? We are after all the buyers.
(04-17-2012 05:34 AM)jacobystealshome Wrote: they dont
(04-17-2012 05:39 AM)dbroockerd Wrote: If we live by a guide no matter how out of date, then they do.
(04-17-2012 05:41 AM)jacobystealshome Wrote: it isnt a couple guys that make up the book value. that is just patently not true.
the values are derived in numerous ways, including reports from brick and mortars stores, online sales, baseline prices from similar sets from previous years, price point of boxes from the manufacturer, etc etc etc etc
(04-17-2012 05:48 AM)iconms Wrote: Yes that's true but it's clearly obvious that they are constantly wayyy behind on making changes to the price guide to accurately reflect current trends and it's reasonable to infer they don't have enough manpower. And the amount of cards they need to price is constantly increasing.
(04-17-2012 05:50 AM)jacobystealshome Wrote: i dont disagree with that, but to infer it's just a couple guys pulling it from their rump is silly. it's an old argument stated on these boards too many times