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Bill Russell UD Black Trophy Autograph 1/1: nonpay or shill bidder?
01-25-2012, 05:02 AM (This post was last modified: 01-25-2012 08:47 AM by xstreaminsanity.)
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Bill Russell UD Black Trophy Autograph 1/1: nonpay or shill bidder?

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/BILL-RUSSELL-07-...636wt_1270

The user of the above auction has since relisted it. Do you think the person didn't pay or it was shill bid?
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01-25-2012, 07:21 AM
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RE: Bill Russell UD Black Trophy Autograph 1/1: nonpay or shill bidder?
Hard to say on that one, the guy's feedback is solid. I'd put that card in the $600-700 range but a hard core Celtics/Russell collector would consider it a must-have. Looks like the prior "winning bidder" came in at the end of the auction...would be nice if the seller put a blurb on the new listing about non-pay on the last one, especially since the seller is in Taiwan.

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01-25-2012, 12:25 PM
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RE: Bill Russell UD Black Trophy Autograph 1/1: nonpay or shill bidder?
Lokking at the bidding history, it looks legit to me.

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01-25-2012, 12:48 PM
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RE: Bill Russell UD Black Trophy Autograph 1/1: nonpay or shill bidder?
ya this would have been a risky shill if it was...the "shiller" put his bid in b4 the winner. So the "shiller" would have had to have a great idea of what a bidder might bid to not win it so late in the bidding. Looks to me like the winner said crap I'm a newer buyer and I dont know what im doing. I agree making note of that in the new auction would have helped

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01-26-2012, 08:40 PM
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RE: Bill Russell UD Black Trophy Autograph 1/1: nonpay or shill bidder?
I agree with both comments above. I've bought multiple cards from the seller. I thought one of the auctions I won was shilled, but hard to prove. I found out who was the other bidder, a guy from China. I think some collectors just like to go & bid numerous times on the same auction. I've had this happen to me several times, including just the other day, Guy bid 9 different times on one card, within two days. Made the card jump about $40.. not too big of a deal, since I still got it for a good price. Not sure if it was a shill or not. But I was upset at first. But again, nothing I can do, if I can't prove it. the suspected shiller had 79% of his bids on one seller. Looked strange, but due to his low overall bidding, it was understandable after thinking about it for a while.

I agree seller should add remarks stating what happen in previous auction. I don't trust any sellers. Even if they have 10,000+ positive transactions.

I'd love to pick that trophy auto up.. It would look very nice to my Kobe /25 UD Black Trophy. I tried to get a few different player's trophy cards, but always over my price range.

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