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(01-16-2012 10:54 PM)ace3m Wrote: I personally agree that retail cards are in a large part nonsense. It pisses me off to think of how many killer cards are wasted on kids or (as I've been told my retail employees) thrown away as boxes get "damaged" or sit there for too long. I've spent probably over $15K opening packs/boxes b/c it's just so much more fun that buying singles, and the 6 best cards I've probably ever pulled were out of single retail packs, not even blasters.
I got a Reggie Bush/Earl Campbell DUAL AU /10 in '06 I still have, a Ken Griffey Jr WBC Patch /8 in '06 that sold for $1600 & a Sid Luckman cut AU /3 that sold for over $2000. These were all out of single packs at a local Pamida (red-neck run down version of Wal-Mart in a town w/ a population under 800.)
At a Wal-mart 45 miles away in a town with a similar population, I got a 2007 Topps David Wright 1/1 AU, a Jack Morris buyback 1/1 AU, & a Golden Ticket signed football of the top 20 rookies of 2007 including Adrian Peterson.
With all of this, you can say that it would be ridiculous for me to hate on retail after pulling all of these, but with 1) the TONS of money spent at retail w/o even getting a Jersey card & 2) even the THOUGHT of some 5 yr old kid pulling one of these and what would end up happening to the card, I am TOTALLY against retail! Anyone agree?
(01-17-2012 10:13 AM)pbean Wrote: my $.02 ..... there are a lot of kids that blow their allowances on cards (whether it be $10-$20) on trading cards of all types.
while as adults this may be a paltry sum, to them it's everything they have ..... why shouldn't their purchases share the same reward as ours ???
Topps, Panini, and other companies have really made a push at the retail level ..... why ??? because this is their grassroots level, the kids
If only adults collect who will carry on our passion ???
I'm glad your trying to carry on your collecting with your daughter we have a few "father/daughter" collectors here
do you not want her to be able to pull that "Cam Newton" auto when she gets old enough to understand and appreciate its value ???
it saddens me how little some want to pass this hobby on sometimes, I feel "greed" has really taken over this hobby
(01-17-2012 12:33 PM)cody_allen Wrote: Believe me I want to share it with her and I want her to get great pulls but only if she is going to be serious and take care of them. All I'm saying is they shouldn't put 1k dollar pulls in packs mixed in with magic cards. Let me ask you this if some 8 year old pulled a 1of1 of your favorite player and you wanted it so bad but it was destroyed by a bike spoke would you think it was in the right hands? I want kids to be in it and enjoy it but if they take it seriously y can't they take there 5 bucks and go buy a hobby pack?
(01-17-2012 05:51 PM)pbean Wrote: I appreciate that your bringing your daughter into the hobby as far as a kid (or dumbarsed adult) getting a big hit well my answers simple ..... if they paid for a product they deserve the same odds as I do to get something saweet
Many kids don't get a chance to go to a LCS, they are far and few nowadays so Target and WallysWorld are one of the few places we can introduce them into the hobby
I look at my youth, I put thousands of dollars into my bike spokes and traded mint Bobby Orr RC's for California Golden Seals and Cleveland Barons cards ..... do I wish I had them now yes, but those experiences were (and still are) priceless to me it part of maturing in the hobby.
We all emphasize "gem mint" and "condition" too much lately ..... if we keep kids away from just enjoying and loving what the have they'll turn to something else in a hurry