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(12-01-2011 04:23 PM)coachlew10 Wrote: I don't believe that redemptions are a contest. They are a commitment from the company to get that item at a later date, within 4-8 months as stated in the options on how long you are willing to wait. There is no chance involved with who you get on the redemption, it is stated on the card, so there is no contest. The only thing that would make it a contest is the "replacement" aspect of the redemption card. So if the company did what they are supposed to, then there would be no replacements, so no contest, so redemptions would not be classified as such. (Fictional example) The 2005 boxes are very expensive because Aaron Rodgers cards are possible hits, but if they are redemptions, you will not get the card as it is Expired. The company sold the product to dealers and collectors at a high price with the understanding that Aaron Rodgers signatures were possible among other rookies. So the company is using false advertising to sell products, as they don't hold the items advertised on the checklist. It doesn't say on the checklist that the card is a redemption, nor does it say that the card is a redemption in Beckett after a certain number of years. I don't think players are that hard to find. I know where they are for 16 Sundays, and multiple weeks during training camps. Card companies have enough $ to send a representative to the facility and get the items signed.
(12-01-2011 04:45 PM)gangstippie Wrote: Does Panini read the forums? Has someone posted this on their twitter or facebook accounts?
Maybe we should hold an "occupy Panini" protest. Because there's a 1% change you'll get the redeemed card you pulled and a 99% chance you'll pull a redemption!
(12-03-2011 02:35 AM)Scratchii Wrote: Video Panini put up today - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHLsPkTHnP8&t=2m7s
"Looks like some Gold Standard that still needs to go out, perhaps"
(12-03-2011 07:55 AM)pbean Wrote: my $.02 on this
first off all companies have redemption's at some point, getting the players to send in their autos can be quite taxing at times ..... I have had a few conversations with all the manufacturers on this and between just plain "laziness" and "egos" getting autographs can be quite the chore
One company I spoke with had a player ask for 4X what they were paying the year prior because his team won a championship the year before, even though he was a "benchwarmer" for most of that season ..... they had to put his autos into the redemption pile since they had committed to print, but were still in negotiations months later
As for companies and their turnaround time well I'll definitely stand by Panini on this one ..... every redemption we've had (expired or not) has been returned to us within their time frame while ..... Upper Deck "mailed" us this past Thursday (so they claim) redemption's of cards we sent back in June ..... these cards were IN STOCK !!!
They were not waiting for autographs, stickers, or anything else.
I spoke with their reps multiple times (probably 100+ calls) and they told me over and over that they had our cards but were just too "busy" to get them out to us ...... soooooooooo Upper Deck will never get any of our money EVER again over this fiasco PERIOD !!!