[warcraftin]

Why would the sp authentic autos look like the press pass autos when they were signed so many months apart? Didn't he change his sig in the meanwhile? All the sticker sigs are totally different.

They probably were not signed so many months apart. Product release dates are not when Cam actually signed the product.

[superynaldo]

It's really sad for the price of cards and packs these days, you would get the real deal... Sad really...

[ugameck]

They probably were not signed so many months apart. Product release dates are not when Cam actually signed the product.

Really? The press pass autos were packed out before the draft - before he was drafted by the panthers - the sp authentic - just signed on Panthers cards. panini blog just posted picks of their natl treasures line without sigs on them....they will all look like the press pass sigs once he signs them in person.

You a actually make my point in a way. The sigs aren't so spaced apart where his sigs should be almost identical- but they aren't at all. Two different signatures are almost identical to themselves - but not similar to each other.

And these sigs were arguably signed nearly at the same time based on card releases.

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My point - on card: he could sign it in 2 years from now in person - it'll look like the press pass from early last year. The stickers are fake. It'll take a rep from a manufacturer to say positively otherwise.

As a lawyer, I am inviting libel. But the defense to libel/slander is....the truth.

[sevans1979]

Imo the stickers are bunk.

Check this out. Skip to 1:20

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld-JZHq2W...ure=relmfu

[jdetter23]

bunk? whats that mean? It looks like hes signing stickers in that video and it goes back to my other theory I stated a long time ago that in his sticker autos he only has a small amount of space so he cant make the big C and continue into his N.Nice video find.

Imo the stickers are bunk.

Check this out. Skip to 1:20

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld-JZHq2W...ure=relmfu

[nthnoak]

Oh man, I wonder how many times this has happened throughout the years. Looks like the hobby should return to the good ol days. Nothing but on card autos, a representative, and a picture on the card of the athlete signing the card.

[sevans1979]

What I meant was the sticker autos of the non connecting "C" and "N" seem suspect to me. If I buy a Cam auto it would be on card Big C connecting to the N auto lol.

bunk? whats that mean? It looks like hes signing stickers in that video and it goes back to my other theory I stated a long time ago that in his sticker autos he only has a small amount of space so he cant make the big C and continue into his N.Nice video find.

[diablo71]

If it ever comes out that even 1 % Of the autos are fake there better be a class action lawsuit... I know I would want my money back. That would b total bs. 100-200 a box for crap. Man, this topic is getting me irritated. Good discussion but man, fake autos. I'm starting to agree though, looks shady to me

[nthnoak]

bunk? whats that mean? It looks like hes signing stickers in that video and it goes back to my other theory I stated a long time ago that in his sticker autos he only has a small amount of space so he cant make the big C and continue into his N.Nice video find.

He could be signing the white swatches from gridiron gear in the first part of that video since he is signing the black ones in the next part. Also, not having enough room for the big C on a sticker is false because here is some proof.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Donruss-Eli...256c072f89


Man this is making me furious at the thought of fake autos people are paying big money for.

[rogue655]

i dont know why i havent noticed this thread. Here's a cam sticker i pulled with the "C" going through the "N"..... BUT... the end of the signature DOESNT come back and cross the "T" it was a very strange looking auto in person and of the two i have pulled they're both different