[bengu]

You wanna know why LeBron shot a higher percentage than Dirk in the Finals!? Because unlike LeBron, Dirk kept shooting and shooting, yes even into the 4th quarter...

Trust me LeBron won't win an MVP again... Finished 3rd last season wtf??? Is that some kind of valid argument for him? Do you remember ANY of the 3rd place finishers in recent history? That's what I thought ping!

Also let's say the Heat had managed to pull off that series, you honestly believe LeBron would have gotten the Finals MVP over Wade with those kind of performances!!? That's what I thought! Yet you say LeBron finishes "third" in the MVP rating lol... So you should agree with me then when I say he's overrated! I mean come on ping, this is the "third place" MVP we're talking about!

You can't possibly believe that the "decision" and his choke job in the Finals are just momentary talking points for his legacy can you!? You honestly think people will forget about the biggest "look at me" moment in tv HISTORY anytime soon? Oh no no no NO! That my dear ping will always be a HUGE part of his legacy and since he will never win a championship it will hang like black cloud over him forever!!!!

Also if you believe he can POSSIBLY be an all time great, well if he EVER got so lucky to become one, YES, that choke job he pulled in the Finals will always haunt him and prevent him from EVER EVER EVER being considered for "greatest of all time" ... You pingbling23 know it and I bengu know it!!!! LoL

Your my boy ping and I must give you some sound advice as a friend.... Sell sell sell those horrid LeBron investments while you can and IF you can because his collectors are disappearing quicker than he did in the 4th quarters of the NBA Finals lol hahaha

[pingbling23]

with the 3rd in the mvp race, i was referring to the season he had, even with sharing the team with wade. and if they would have won, no, wade deserved the finals mvp, but you can not forget, lebron had an overall better season and playoffs then wade. that is why its not hard to believe he can get more mvps.

[bengu]

(09-13-2011 07:47 AM)pingbling23 Wrote:  with the 3rd in the mvp race, i was referring to the season he had, even with sharing the team with wade. and if they would have won, no, wade deserved the finals mvp, but you can not forget, lebron had an overall better season and playoffs then wade. that is why its not hard to believe he can get more mvps.

Dude your such a homer for LeBron it's sad lol

[pingbling23]

you are the one that makes all of these threads about lebron, not me, again, i use facts, you use weak opinions.

[bengu]

(09-14-2011 02:26 AM)pingbling23 Wrote:  you are the one that makes all of these threads about lebron, not me, again, i use facts, you use weak opinions.

"weak opinions"????

Ringless= FACT
Won't win another MVP with the FACT that all his numbers have gone down and he's not even the leader of his own team = FACT

If the Heat had managed to come back and win the Finals D-Wade would have won MVP and NOT LeBron= FACT

The "Decision" was the biggest "Look at me moment" in sports history= FACT! Only time in history something like that has been done with a prime time special

LeBrons cards have dropped in value dramatically since the Finals ended= FACT, so my opinion that selling would be the right idea has some factual evidence for it!

LeBron is overrated= FACT! He is supposed to be the "King" and the "Chosen One" right? So by those standards it is a FACT he is overrated, not an opinion. No rings, 0-2 in the Finals, disappears in important games, jumps on another alphas bandwagon, and has had his averages drop dramatically on the Heat.

He'll STAY ringless= OPINION, but a strong chance of it happening.
He'll NEVER win another MVP= OPINION, but a strong chance of it happening

Nothing weak about what I've been saying about him, it IS weak however that you try and make him out to be a top all time great already!

Hey Ping, you know who else has two MVP's? Steve Nash!

[pingbling23]

when he is putting up the best numbers on his team, he is the "leader of the team" even though its still wades team. it is both of our opinions that wade would have won the finals mvp if the heat would have won. the decision raised a ton of money for charities and the media hyped the "decision" the last 2 years lebron played for the cavs, it was only fitting to do a primetime special and raise money for a good cause. and im not saying i liked the special and or agree to how lebron went about it. the whole card market has dropped in value (besides the hot of the moment 90's inserts) due to lockout talks, the economy, and it being the offseason, but lebron is still the 2nd or 3rd top selling basketball player in the market. lebron being overrated is an opinion. i dont try to make him out to be an all time great already, but i do recognize his stats and what hes done. if his career continues on this track, even if he doesnt win a championship (there are several all time greats that didnt win a title) he will be an all time great, easily. not sure the point youre making with nash, although i do believe he is one of the greatest guards the league has seen.

[bengu]

Ok then we'll agree to disagree... But just know that outside of Miami & his collectors, that probably 95% of the country see's it like I do and don't have much respect for him.

The Steve Nash thing is because you say James will be an all time great if he continues down this same path, well what makes you think that? What has he done exactly besides win two MVP's? Two underserved MVP's might I add. Hey Ping in those back 2 back MVP years for LeBron guess who else won an MVP back2back? Kobe Bryant with back2back FINALS MVP's plus two more rings! So who really was the MVP of the NBA those years?

You can't tell me that me saying certain MVP's are overrated is a "weak opinion" because it's happened in the past as well. Remember in 1997 when Karl Malone won it over MJ? Or in 93 when Barkely won it over MJ? What happened both years? You can compare averages or whatever you want... The NBA is trying to force feed the NBA viewers LeBron to be the next Jordan but has FAILED

[ande_23]

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry...4/30005005


lololololololol

[pingbling23]

that shirts funny lol, i love how they have to put, its referencing a shaq and kobe incident, i highly doubt it.

[pingbling23]

in support of lebrons 3rd mvp in 4 seasons, i would just like to point out how awful and idiotic bengu's comments were, im sorry he is not here anymore to comment, lol. someone that said lebron is overrated and will never win another mvp lol. lebron had the best statistical season since mj in the late 80's and has won another mvp putting him in some outstanding company, although heat and lebron haters love to rag on him, he did this sharring the spotlight with 2 all star caliber players. now, lets see if the heat can go the distance and see if lebron can win the finals mvp like bengu said was impossible, congrats to you lebron for mvp, you earned/deserved it!!!!