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2011 Bowman Platinum 5 case break and contest thread (Contests closed)
07-29-2011, 03:16 PM
Post: #91
RE: 2011 Bowman Platinum 5 case break and contest thread (Contest #2 cutoff @ 10:05 PM)
Case 4, Box 1

Rockies 22-8

Collecting Doug Waechter (118/149), Jared Sandberg (107/125), 1994-95 BB Michael Jordan (69/89), 1977-1997 Eddie Murray (877/943), and Bo Jackson BB/FB 1986-1995 (447/486), 2007 Fleer Mini Gold (126/370). Only completing trades with something on my lists.
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07-29-2011, 05:53 PM
Post: #92
RE: 2011 Bowman Platinum 5 case break and contest thread (Contest #2 cutoff @ 10:05 PM)
case 4 box 4 rockies 14-9

I collect any current braves and former Mississippi State players.
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07-29-2011, 06:03 PM
Post: #93
RE: 2011 Bowman Platinum 5 case break and contest thread (Contest #2 cutoff @ 10:05 PM)
Case 3 Box 7, Rockies 18 - Padres 9

Angels RC's - Trout, Skaggs, Cron, Cowart, Lindsey, Maronde, Luis Jimenez, Hunter Green, Kole Calhoun, Mark Sappington, etc.

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07-29-2011, 08:06 PM (This post was last modified: 07-29-2011 08:54 PM by pyweed.)
Post: #94
RE: 2011 Bowman Platinum 5 case break and contest thread (Contest #2 cutoff @ 10:05 PM)
No further entries accepted.

There are a total of 35 entries. 6 boxes in Case #3 are covered, 8 are covered in Case #4, and 8 are covered in Case #5. 14 boxes are uncovered.

Good luck!
Case #3, Box #1

Emerald prospect refractors /599: Jesus Montero, Jonathan Singleton
Autos: Brandon Guyer, Kyle Parker
Auto relic /1166: Robinson Tejeda

Grade: F+
Comments: Not the start I was hoping for. Case 3, Box 1 is unlikely to be the contest winner.

Case #3, Box #2

Emerald prospect refractor /599: Matt Dominguez
Blue prospect refractor /199: Chris Archer
Auto: Delino DeShields
Green auto redemption: Matt Harvey
Auto relic /1166: Ozzie Martinez

Grade: D
Comments: Blue prospect refractor is now the lowest numbered refractor. I think that will be beat at some point, though.

Case #3, Box #3

Emerald prospect refractor /599: Jonathan Schoop
Gold prospect refractor /50: Adron Chambers
Autos: Michael Choice, Garrett Richards
Emerald auto relic /199: Starlin Castro

Grade: D+
Comments: Excellent auto relic and decent gold refractor, which, numbered to 50 is the new contest card.
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07-29-2011, 09:08 PM (This post was last modified: 07-29-2011 09:44 PM by pyweed.)
Post: #95
RE: 2011 Bowman Platinum 5 case break and contest thread (Contests closed)
Case #3, Box #4

Emerald prospect refractors /599: Shelby Miller, Jacob Goebbert
Autos: Mike Foltynewicz
Emerald auto /399: Adam Warren
Auto relic /1166: John McDonald

Grade: D-
Comments: None.

Case #3, Box #5

Emerald prospect refractor /599: Hector Noesi
Blue prospect refractor /199: Derek Norris
Auto: Bryce Harper
Blue auto /99: Mike Foltynewicz
Triple auto redemption: Jason Castro/Brett Wallace/Chris Johnson
Auto relic /1166: Leo Nunez

Grade: A+
Comments: There we go. Feast or famine with this product, and here’s an example of the feast side. Harper autos are holding at > $250 at the moment, and most are exchanges, whereas mine is live. The triple is excellent also, and there are a couple on eBay ending tomorrow so I can get a sense for the market. The contest card is still the /50 gold refractor in box #3, but this is the best box so far, and maybe in the whole break. Woohoo!

Case #3, Box #6

Emerald prospect refractor /599: Manny Machado
Blue prospect refractor /199: Eduardo Escobar
Autos: Brad Holt, Schaeffer Hall
USA auto redemption
Auto relic /1166: Max Ramirez

Grade: D
Comments: Back to grinding. It just hit me that my Nunez auto relic is a bat. Dude has never had an MLB plate appearance. Does he even own a bat?
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07-29-2011, 10:00 PM
Post: #96
RE: 2011 Bowman Platinum 5 case break and contest thread (Contests closed)
Damn. Case 3 Box 5 was supposed to be the Harper Superfractor.Wink Nice pull on the Auto and congrats to both of us on Harper autos (though I have to wait until November for mine).

Dave J.

Collecting current and former Georgia Tech sports stars, Hank Aaron, Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays, Ken Griffey Jr., and Albert Pujols
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07-29-2011, 10:08 PM (This post was last modified: 07-29-2011 10:37 PM by pyweed.)
Post: #97
RE: 2011 Bowman Platinum 5 case break and contest thread (Contests closed)
Case #3, Box #7

Emerald prospect refractors /599: Tim Beckham, Eduardo Escobar
Auto: Randall Delgado
Emerald auto redemption: Manny Machado
Auto relic /1166: Leo Nunez

Grade: B
Comments: Wow, nice auto pulls! Piling up some value in this case. Finally!

(07-29-2011 10:00 PM)dandsbeck1 Wrote:  Damn. Case 3 Box 5 was supposed to be the Harper Superfractor.Wink Nice pull on the Auto and congrats to both of us on Harper autos (though I have to wait until November for mine).

LOL, I thought *you* were going to get the superfractor; that's why I didn't pull it! Cheers.
Case #3, Box #8

Emerald prospect refractor /599: Kaleb Cowart
Blue prospect refractor /199: Austin Hyatt
Autos: Cutter Dykstra, Hayden Simpson
Auto relic redemption: Trevor Bell

Grade: F
Comments: There’s a limit to what Harper can atone for.

Case #3, Box #9

Emerald prospect refractor /599: Kyle Seager
Gold prospect refractor /50: Jordan Swagerty
Auto: Jameson Taillon
Blue auto /99: Dickie Joe Thon
USA auto redemption
Auto relic /1166: Emilio Bonafacio

Grade: D
Comments: Auto parallels are not as formidable with this checklist. I did get another gold refractor numbered /50, though, so the new contest box is Case #3, Box #9. Seems unlikely to hold, though. Excellent auto relic and decent gold refractor, which, numbered to 50 is the new contest card.
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07-29-2011, 10:56 PM
Post: #98
RE: 2011 Bowman Platinum 5 case break and contest thread (Contests closed)
(07-29-2011 09:08 PM)pyweed Wrote:  Case #3, Box #4

Emerald prospect refractors /599: Shelby Miller, Jacob Goebbert
Autos: Mike Foltynewicz
Emerald auto /399: Adam Warren
Auto relic /1166: John McDonald

Grade: D-
Comments: None.

Case #3, Box #5

Emerald prospect refractor /599: Hector Noesi
Blue prospect refractor /199: Derek Norris
Auto: Bryce Harper
Blue auto /99: Mike Foltynewicz
Triple auto redemption: Jason Castro/Brett Wallace/Chris Johnson
Auto relic /1166: Leo Nunez

Grade: A+
Comments: There we go. Feast or famine with this product, and here’s an example of the feast side. Harper autos are holding at > $250 at the moment, and most are exchanges, whereas mine is live. The triple is excellent also, and there are a couple on eBay ending tomorrow so I can get a sense for the market. The contest card is still the /50 gold refractor in box #3, but this is the best box so far, and maybe in the whole break. Woohoo!

Case #3, Box #6

Emerald prospect refractor /599: Manny Machado
Blue prospect refractor /199: Eduardo Escobar
Autos: Brad Holt, Schaeffer Hall
USA auto redemption
Auto relic /1166: Max Ramirez

Grade: D
Comments: Back to grinding. It just hit me that my Nunez auto relic is a bat. Dude has never had an MLB plate appearance. Does he even own a bat?

Nice Bryce Harper! Too bad it took 29 boxes to get one!

Collecting Jason Heyward, Brian McCaan, and Dale Murphy.Go Braves!
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07-29-2011, 11:13 PM (This post was last modified: 07-30-2011 12:03 AM by pyweed.)
Post: #99
RE: 2011 Bowman Platinum 5 case break and contest thread (Contests closed)
Case #3, Box #10

Emerald prospect refractor /599: Tyler Skaggs
Blue prospect refractor /199: Cutter Dykstra
Autos: Shelby Miller, Joe Benson
Auto relic redemption: Brett Cecil

Grade: D
Comments: Nice Miller auto.

Case #3, Box #11

Emerald prospect refractors /599: Kyle Parker, Zach Lee
Auto: Jean Segura
Auto redemption: Matt Harvey
Gold auto relic /25: Cristhian Martinez

Grade: D
Comments: Redemptions for gold relic autos sometimes say “patch,” but judging from the gold Martinez relic I pulled, it’s just plain jersey. Too bad. The card is extra thick, as though they intended to do something special with it, but no patch. It is, however, my lowest numbered card so far, so Case # 3, Box #11 is the new contest box. I still think this will be beat, though.

Case #3, Box #12

Emerald prospect refractor /599: Christian Colon
Blue prospect refractor /199: Jared Mitchell
Auto redemption: Matt Harvey
Emerald auto /399: Brad Holt
Auto relic /1166: Juan Francisco

Grade: F
Comments: Bad ending to my best case so far.

Case #3 Summary

Autos:
Matt Harvey (2)
Jean Segura
Shelby Miller
Joe Benson
Jameson Taillon
Cutter Dykstra
Hayden Simpson
Randall Delgado
Mike Foltynewicz
Brandon Guyer
Kyle Parker
Michael Choice
Garrett Richards
Delino DeShields
Bryce Harper
Brad Holt
Schaeffer Hall

Emerald autos /399:
Brad Holt
Manny Machado
Adam Warren
Matt Harvey

Blue autos /99:
Mike Foltynewicz
Dickie Joe Thon

USA auto redemptions (2)

Auto relics /1166:
Juan Francisco
Brett Cecil
Emilio Bonafacio
Trevor Bell
Leo Nunez (2)
John McDonald
Robinson Tejeda
Ozzie Martinez
Max Ramirez

Emerald auto relic /199:
Starlin Castro

Gold auto relic /25:
Cristhian Martinez

Triple auto redemption:
Jason Castro / Brett Wallace / Chris Johnson


Grade: C
Comments: It was nice to get a couple of genuinely good boxes, including one fantastic box. By my estimate, the pair balanced the poor boxes almost perfectly. I think I got almost exactly the $1100 in cards I purchased. The good news is that it appears possible to get solid value from this product. The bad news is that it required a Bryce Harper to do it, and I’ve only managed this once in three cases. It doesn’t appear likely to get outlay value without a Harper. With respect to the contest, the lowest numbered card so far appeared in Case #3, Box #11, the Martinez gold auto relic numbered to 25. As I beat that in both other cases, I think we’ll be looking at a win in Case #4 or Case #5. Good luck!

Case #4, Box #1

Emerald prospect refractor /599: Cutter Dykstra
Blue prospect refractor /199: Oswaldo Arcia
Autos: Jimmy Paredes, Domingo Santana
Auto relic /1166: Emilio Bonafacio
Emerald auto relic redemption: Brett Cecil

Grade: D
Comments: An extra relic is nice, but no $10 cards in this box.


Case #4, Box #2

Emerald prospect refractors /599: Zach Cox, Carlos Perez
Auto: Brad Holt
Emerald auto /399: Michael Choice
Auto relic /1166: Leo Nunez

Grade: D-
Comments: I may need a couple of Harpers this case.

Case #4, Box #3

Emerald prospect refractors /599: Jared Mitchell, Alex Wimmers
Auto: Deck McGuire
Auto redemption: Manny Machado
Auto relic /1166: Juan Francisco

Grade: D
Comments: I was hoping for a base Machado at some point.

Case #4, Box #4

Emerald prospect refractor /599: Jordan Pacheco
Gold prospect refractor /50: Zach Lee
Auto: Miguel De Los Santos
Emerald auto /399: Leon Landry

Grade: D
Comments: No relic in this box; I barely missed it though.

Case #4, Box #5

Emerald prospect refractor /599: Tim Beckham
Blue prospect refractor /199: Manny Banuelos
Auto: Kyle Seager, Hector Noesi
Auto relic /1166: Jhan Marinez

Grade: D
This case has been a serious dud so far. We’re still looking at Case #3, Box #11 as the contest winner unless something interesting pops up.


Case #4, Box #6

Emerald prospect refractor /599: Austin Hyatt
Blue prospect refractor /199: Tony Wolters
Auto: Jiwan James
Blue auto /99: Delino DeShields
USA auto redemption
Auto relic /1166: Edwin Encarnacion

Grade: C-
Comments: Best box so far this case, but still a money loser. I think I'm done busting tonight, and Saturday is starting to look pretty busy. It's possible I won't be able to resume until noon Sunday. I might be able to finish Sunday, though.
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07-30-2011, 12:58 AM
Post: #100
RE: 2011 Bowman Platinum 5 case break and contest thread (Contest #2 now live)
Makes complete sense, especially with ur precedent of good grades. I'm just getting back into baseball, what would you say is the best ROI to break from 2010 and 2011? 2010 Bowman Sterling?




(07-29-2011 09:03 AM)pyweed Wrote:  Yeah, I can see how it might seem that I'm just being negative. For a little emotional balance, you can look at my 2010 Bowman Sterling thread (5 case break graded A):

http://www.beckett.com/forums/thread-1404523.html

or for a more direct comparison, my 2010 Bowman Platinum thread (5 case thread graded B):

http://www.beckett.com/forums/thread-1396290.html

Through 2 cases of 2011 Bowman Platinum I am headed towards a D grade without a single above average box. By "average" I mean that the cards in it have aggregate cash value approaching what I paid for the box. So my definition of average doesn't compel me to grade on a curve within the break. If I did, the superfractor box would be above average as you said.

But consider the cash value of that superfractor. What do you think it would bring in an auction on eBay? Pretty tough to evaluate because at the time I pulled it there hadn't been any supers sold yet. My best estimate of its cash value was $45. Perhaps that's conservative. A Jordan Pacheco super later sold for $125 and a Matt Moore sold for $205. On the other hand, there isn't much market for Puello. His parallel cards aren't selling well, if at all. So I think $45 may be in the ballpark.

Now consider that I paid a little over $91 for the box. For me to grade the box at above average, the cash value of the remaining cards need to total well above $91, and frankly, I just didn't get there. I got to about what I paid for, which is why I graded it a C.

Hope this helps understand my methodology. I really like hearing different opinions about the cash value of these cards, especially early in the game when eBay isn't much help in that regard. I want to be as accurate as possible, even if that means grading every box above average or every box below average.

Nathan
Case #2 Summary

Autos:
Leon Landry
Anderson Feliz
Kyle Seager
Clint Robinson
Jordan Pacheco
Cody Scarpetta
Cutter Dykstra
Jordan Swagerty
Kyle Parker
Tyler Skaggs (2)
Brandon Guyer
Delino DeShields
Michael Choice
Brad Holt
Mike Foltynewicz
Garrett Richards
Mystery Redemption

Emerald autos /399:
Jimmy Paredes
Mike Foltynewicz
Jordan Pacheco
Domingo Santana
Mystery Redemption

Gold auto /50:
Miguel De Los Santos

USA Autos (2)

Auto relics /1166:
Evan Meek
Yamacio Navarro
John McDonald
Max Ramirez
Brett Cecil
Emilio Bonafacio
Leo Nunez

Auto relics /666:
J. P. Arencibia
Starlin Castro

Auto relic /115:
Austin Jackson

Green auto relic /199:
Trevor Bell

Gold auto relic /25:
Brett Cecil


Grade: D
Comments:This was a better case than Case #1, but it’s still a significant loss relative to my outlay. These boxes were worth about $72 each. The Puello super is the hit of the break so far, which means that out of 2160 cards none of them likely have a CV of $50, which rarely happens with a Bowman product. I’ll start posting Case #3 Friday night, and with some luck I’ll be done with the break Sunday. Good luck in the contest everyone!
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