(06-09-2011 09:31 AM)folkertino Wrote: can I just ask why it's so important whether LeBron is better than MJ? Can we not cherish the memory of MJ having been an exceptional athlete during 15 seasons and accept that there's now a new kid on the block?
(06-08-2011 05:27 AM)bengu Wrote: LeBron is getting everything he deserves as far as criticism in my opinion! The guy is a dueche bag who thinks he's EARNED the right to be considered amongst the greatest ever. He came out of high school calling himself the "king" lmao what a joke. He will never be MJ because he has no class and is a all about himself type player. The talent level in the NBA is at an all time low and he's just a slightly bigger fish in a small pond. Honestly I can go on FOREVER on why he'll never be mentioned in the same breath as MJ... If you must know why then I will explain lol.. Just ask
(06-08-2011 12:18 AM)evolb909 Wrote: He doesn't deserve all of the extra scrutiny. There's no way he would have won a ring in Cleveland without another star/semi-star free agent. People don't like the fact he left, but how can you blame him? The Cavs drafted him but he didn't ask to go there and just because he is fom Ohio shouldn't mean he can never leave. "They" just need to move on. All in all I believe it's just a matter of time before all is forgiven, just ask Kobe.
(06-08-2011 01:00 PM)got watcha want Wrote: bengu- Not saying it is gonna happen or that LBJ is better than MJ now. In fact I stated the two shouldn't even be compared.
But, LeBron is not a big fish in a small pond. That theory is just crazy. The only things the league lacks now compared to the 90's is the less strict officiating and a lack of HOF centers that were abundent then.
Your opinon has holes in it because you think that the talent pool is smaller and you appearently think that LeBron James would not have been as competative in the NBA of the 90's. You're way way off on that opinion.
I can't believe I am defending LeBum right now, being a Kobe fan and rooting for the Mavericks at the moment. I just don't let the fact that I don't like this "diva" player in turn affect my judgement of the guy's skill set. He is having a subpar Finals because the matchups favor Wade more against the Mavericks.
His regular season stats and effenciency are better than D-Wade's across the board, I giggled at your Batman and Robin analogy. Ask Pat Riley who he would draft #1 in his active player fantasy draft. LeBron goes #1 in almost anybody's draft that is close to professional basketball. He is currently the best active player, that is most of the general public's opinions as well.
Wade has a title and has played better than James as of late. But, to say LeBron James is anybody's "Robin" is absurd.
The scoring titles that MJ had should reflect the talent pool at his position of his time (not saying that he is not the greastest ever) but that kind of shoots holes in your shrunken talent pool theory if you ask me. LeBron is competing against guards like Kobe, Durant, Melo, and even his boy Wade is competition for that Scoring title.
I don't count slam dunk titles because Nate Robinson has one. LOL ( That is not really a title to lean on for a resume or a debate about players) I have seen AND1 players that deserve the greatest dunker title more so than MJ and it is not like Jason Kapono is one of the greatest shooters ever for his 3 point title.
Now remove the scoring titles and the slam dunk titles, is it not POSSIBLE for James to catch up to MJ's accolades? I think it is, especially considering the 5-6 more seasons more than MJ that LeBron will rack up because of a combination of Jordan's retirement years and the fact that James entered the NBA at 18 years old.
Man, as I right this I am thinking this is more than just possible and more like probable.