[irbecards32]

that isnt the point.

it's still fraud

Read my post above yours, Ive checked on it and its not fraud or consumer fraud. try finding out what consumer fraud is before claiming it. The buyer of a product cannot commit consumer fraud. And the seller (being the shop guy) is also not commiting fraud because as stated there are still hits in the box and he didnt manipulate any odds. And you still never answered the card counting post. that is manipulated odds as well and it is not illegal nor is it fraud.