I feel terrible for everyone who is involved, and who lost both money and cards. I had some interaction with JAKELOVESCARDS - I truly felt sorry for his circumstances - just like this community, I was willing and wanted to help out. At first I thought the gun was jumped a little, but, now having seen this played out, I am grateful that Derek came forward immediately with this. I am not a huge trader on this site, because of time constraints, but is there a protocol that we all could come up with to ensure that high end trades are not vulnerable to these problems, albeit they seldom occur? As far as determining if an individual does it fact have a card, it's not difficult to ask them to set the card on a current days newspaper with the date on it. That is at least one step to ensure that someone you are trading with does have that card in their possession. Also, a deposit to a third party trader you both trust to ensure delivery? I know these suggestions are full of holes, but someone might come up with the solution that works! Personally, I am pretty trusting as seems to be the case with a lot of traders here. I know as a new trader, I usually sent first. I have no problem with that. But, rather than ramble, can we maybe start a new thread Derek that allows people to suggest some protocols that would be helpful or at least minimize the problems? Just a thought.
And while I believe that JAKELOVESCARDS at this point deserves full justice, and deserves whatever is meted out, especially because of his attitude and brazen flippancy, I am reminded of this:
Matthew 5:44 - Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and PRAY for them which DESPITEFULLY USE YOU, and persecute you.
I have no right to tell each of you that have been wronged how to feel, I am not in your shoes; but these are not my words, but the words of someone who has walked in your shoes. End of Sermon!
And while I believe that JAKELOVESCARDS at this point deserves full justice, and deserves whatever is meted out, especially because of his attitude and brazen flippancy, I am reminded of this:
Matthew 5:44 - Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and PRAY for them which DESPITEFULLY USE YOU, and persecute you.
I have no right to tell each of you that have been wronged how to feel, I am not in your shoes; but these are not my words, but the words of someone who has walked in your shoes. End of Sermon!
Collecting:
Matt Kemp AUTOS
Dodger GU & AUTO
2009 Ultimate or Legendary Collection Quad / Auto - ALL
Mantle cards
2001 Fleer Greats of the Game AUTO 92/94 - 97.8% complete - missing Stargell Redemption Card and Mays SP
National League Rookie of the Year - GU, Auto, RC
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Matt Kemp AUTOS
Dodger GU & AUTO
2009 Ultimate or Legendary Collection Quad / Auto - ALL
Mantle cards
2001 Fleer Greats of the Game AUTO 92/94 - 97.8% complete - missing Stargell Redemption Card and Mays SP
National League Rookie of the Year - GU, Auto, RC
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