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(07-12-2012 09:32 PM)nthnoak Wrote: I really wouldnt purchase a card on the internet in hopes of getting it graded. you need to see them in person to really make a decision. people complain all the time about getting a card graded a 9 when in fact most cards these days that have an auto or patch or something would grade far less than that. it doesnt take much to knock a card down. i recently had some cards graded that looked absolutley flawless and they both got 9's. you would think they would have had bad centering or surface since thats hard to spot, but no, they were hit on corners. i have no idea how but it happened.