[krykslr]

Yep, 1 or 1.5....the crease eliminates the chance at much higher....2 if you're lucky.

[cptnemo66]

I would also agree. No higher than a 2, prolly a 1 or 1.5. Both of these cards have much better corners and backs, both are crease free also.

[joe callahan13]

I would also guess 1.5. But yikes cptnemo- I would have expected both of those to grade higher! Those are both REALLY nice 3/3.5's!