[jacobystealshome]

(04-05-2012 07:08 AM)ricelynnevans75 Wrote:  What exactly is the legal liability that you keep referring to but never explain?

this is not my opinion. i am simply restating beckett's stated position on this, an opinion that has not changed in a number of years

[ricelynnevans75]

Who from Beckett said it? Unless I'm overlooking it, I don't see anything in the TOS saying it can't be done.

[jacobystealshome]

back when beckett folks actually used to roam the boards, the "liability issue" was the reason given. the reasoning isnt in the TOS, but the rule is ("In addition, buys and group buys (splitting cases) are not allowed on the forums.")

seriously, this has been discussed ad nauseum through the years.

[ricelynnevans75]

(04-05-2012 11:52 AM)jacobystealshome Wrote:  back when beckett folks actually used to roam the boards, the "liability issue" was the reason given. the reasoning isnt in the TOS, but the rule is ("In addition, buys and group buys (splitting cases) are not allowed on the forums.")

seriously, this has been discussed ad nauseum through the years.

Ah, that would explain why my searches didn't turn anything up, I wasn't calling them buys/group buys.

I don't know, just doesn't make sense to me. I guess the liability excuse would work/make sense if they didn't allow trades as well. In that regard, I'd be interested in knowing what the liability issue is since they allow trading to happen and don't do anything to protect people (can't imagine how they would anyway) even though they require people to use their trade tools. I'm curious in that aspect since I like to know the ins and outs behind something and not just a blanket word given. But similar to what you said, there aren't any Beckett people that roam the boards frequently to answer these questions.

I haven't been here "through the years" so my bad if I haven't seen it discussed "ad nauseum".

[jacobystealshome]

(04-05-2012 12:02 PM)ricelynnevans75 Wrote:  Ah, that would explain why my searches didn't turn anything up, I wasn't calling them buys/group buys.

I don't know, just doesn't make sense to me. I guess the liability excuse would work/make sense if they didn't allow trades as well. In that regard, I'd be interested in knowing what the liability issue since they allow trading to happen and don't do anything to protect people (can't imagine how they would anyway) even though they require people use their trade tools. I'm curious in that aspect that I like to know the ins and outs behind something. But similar to what you said, there aren't any Beckett people that roam the boards frequently to answer these questions.

I haven't been here "through the years" so my bad if I haven't seen it discussed "ad nauseum".

i agree it's incongruent logic, but i believe it is because the reality, or at least the perception, is that group breaks are inherently more risky than a normal trade.

[toddaray]

(04-05-2012 12:02 PM)ricelynnevans75 Wrote:  I haven't been here "through the years" so my bad if I haven't seen it discussed "ad nauseum".

Actually RLE, it would appear you have been "through" about five more years than jacoby.

[jacobystealshome]

(04-05-2012 12:10 PM)toddaray Wrote:  Actually RLE, it would appear you have been "through" about five more years than jacoby.

not quite...back in the bad old days of the old site, my last two accounts got corrupted, and had to migrate to new ones

i honestly dont even remember what my old names were at this point. (i think one was "ebaywatcher", but that one was short-lived)

but ive been on beckett one way or another for 8-9 years now. though i only started posting on the forums in the past 3-4

[rybowski97]

(03-26-2012 08:40 AM)talkntribe Wrote:  If beckett won't allow it why not just get a group of close guys and do a private break. Maybe have the one who breaks do it live. I think eveyone should be comfortable with the person who breaks. I watch alot of these breaks on youtube. My buddies friend does them. Ive always wanted to get in on one. Even the mystery packs sound cool. Use a site like Random.org to pick out the spots and such.

i think us northeast ohio guys could get together and split the boxes or hits and open them live while everyone is present.

[jacobystealshome]

(04-06-2012 07:44 AM)rybowski97 Wrote:  i think us northeast ohio guys could get together and split the boxes or hits and open them live while everyone is present.

thats how group breaks should be done. it's harder that way, trying to get enough folks involved and such, but also the safest (and tons of fun. ive done two local breaks, and it's a blast. pizzza, guinness, dreams of a big hit, broken hearts, and some good post-break trades)

[rybowski97]

(04-06-2012 07:50 AM)jacobystealshome Wrote:  thats how group breaks should be done. it's harder that way, trying to get enough folks involved and such, but also the safest (and tons of fun. ive done two local breaks, and it's a blast. pizzza, guinness, dreams of a big hit, broken hearts, and some good post-break trades)

I used to have a buddy from California from beckett buy/sell who i sold a card to for 10 bucks and from that we went on to buying and splitting several cases, ebay lots, etc for 2-3 years. I had so much fun with that as none of my friends collected past 14-or 15 and I completely stopped during college other than throwing a few cards on the bay for boozin money. Now that im 30 and engaged with kids i have no social life anymore and other than golf, this is about the most enjoyable thing i can do in my free time. I did one case break on the board when i was a member of the bccg football group and we just did the break thru instant message. Anyone reading this, if u are interested in splitting bowman chrome cases, hit me up.